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I'm not sure if this is what @solmag is referring to, but there was a white nationalist AMA space that was appearing under users' recommendations.

Is there anything written about this? Failing to Google it

I might be wrong with what op was referring to though, but if you limit your search to the last 24hr you might find something.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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I remember spending a summer on the Twitter campus and the whole time I was wondering - why the heck does Twitter need all these employees (5500 as of last count [0])? The functionality hasn't budged much in years. I get the need for IT ops to keep stuff running (especially since failwhale days). But honestly, I never got why Twitter couldn't do with 1/10 the staff they have / had. I hope this great resignation wave…

They need all those employees because apparently there is not really any algorithm at work... An insider leaked at some point on Reddit a while back that there are just a bunch of people applying back end controls on each user account to limit their posting activity in one of a few ways, and when I saw it it did a lot to ease my mind about how the erratic way Twitter works. I personally think that some accounts simply get shadowbanned for life unless they pass the "money making controversial post attention" threshold.

Smoke and mirrors and pay-for-play have completely corrupted social media now since the pandemic. "Success" on social platforms depends on how much you can afford to pay for it.

I understand everyone has bills to pay, but these services started out as free services and converted stealthily and at times deceptively into paid services, and that shouldn't be just overlooked or given a pass.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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There's zero explanation in the email for why he resigned. He's re-iterating the point that the company is fine moving forward with the rest of the board, the new CEO and the existing team, but no actual reason as to why he left.

When a CEO leaving the same day the news come out, it means it wasn't his decision.

Not really. When you don't want the discussion to linger for the whole transition period, announcing the news the last minute can make sense. Not saying it's the case here though, just saying it's a possibility.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Which systems are the "hard" parts? Given zero functionality change, how much larger can and should Twitter grow? Is the complication a function of ad revenue, volume of content, user traffic?

Just because you don't see functionality changing doesn't mean it isn't. Lots of new features, just not for the normal users. Not to mention all the backend work to make all this data flow around, be accurate, and be reliable. And also, there's not just engineering. HR, Accounting, Lawyers, Trust and Safety, it's all there

The question is valid though as to why they've kept growing if the user-facing product hasn't changed. There are some good reasons but lots of bad ones too.

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> FWIW, you've also championed transparency and decentralization for your platform more than any other SV social media titan Twitter don't even have an RSS feed let alone championing decentralisation.

They at least talk about decentralization. This definitely qualifies as more than any other comparably large social media.

I'm not so sure. The illusion of action could be worse than indifference. Who would build a service/standard that Twitter could make obsolete/outmoded in one day, with potentially billions of $ against it?

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Uncharitable explanation: he's being forced out over his pro-free-speech views. He's been pretty vocal about disagreeing with Twitter's recent actions.

That makes no sense. He is the CEO and on the board, he _is_ the decision maker and could reverse any action he disagreed with. Any disagreement was purely theatre.

Look for a video of his speech during the Bitcoin conference that happened in Miami this year. Some activist invaded the area blaming him for censorship and then he proceed to apologetically explain that the pressure comes from the companies advertising on Twitter.

EDIT: here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFd5zlw13FU

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Replying to my own comment, but if I had to guess (on absolutely zero context and evidence :p), I would say he wants to focus on crypto/Square, and Twitter is more of a time sink. Twitter is in a good enough state at the moment that the team can move without him so it's a good moment to leave.

The 10% appreciation of the shares as a result of him leaving is reason enough. He's still a big shareholder.

Other than Musk for Tesla and SpaceX, I can't think of any of the major companies who would really be impacted much by their CEO leaving. Maybe Zuck leaving FB might make a small difference but IG seems decently independent of him anyway.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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But I think calling it pay-for-click is a misnomer, that's just the latest version of a very old business model. Cable news, like Fox, has had the same outrage-fueled engagement metrics that predate the internet, and before them there were newspapers doing the same thing. I think the technology of social media is just creating small efficiencies in an existing business model preying on very old aspects of human natur…

I think the difference is that cable news is hard to access for a lot of people. For example, you don’t have ML algorithms on cable boxes trying to suggest a show which will result in high engagement. It’s fairly siloed, in that you have to deliberately choose to watch cable news. (Though they definitely keep you hooked!) Social media really allows it to be much more pervasive.

Annecdotally, Cable news seems to work just as effectively at confirming prior biases as social media among my relatives who don't have computers / smartphones, maybe even more effectively. I'm skeptical that the algorithms are so much better than people self sorting between news networks that it's a difference of kind rather than degree, and I think we give "the algorithms" way too much credit in general

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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A few reflections on this announcement. 1) Remember that CEOs of public companies are essentially unable to say what they think or want. The cost of doing it is being sued for damages, having to spend countless hours with lawyers, etc. Jack might think X, but he's only allowed to say Y, and he doesn't want to go beyond that because he doesn't want to fight that fight. Only people in a close circle really know what's…

> Remember that CEOs of public companies are essentially unable to say what they think or want.

Elon Musk seems pretty free. He just pays the fines time to time.

Re: I resigned from Twitter

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Ahh yet another person who sees the user facing systems as "the product", or worse "the hard part". Sigh.

Which systems are the "hard" parts? Given zero functionality change, how much larger can and should Twitter grow? Is the complication a function of ad revenue, volume of content, user traffic?

Twitter is an advertising platform and it's the ads, ad targeting, advertiser tools that change. Doing new things with a large volume of data requires a lot of engineering.

"If you're not paying for the product, you are the product" as they say

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