This is bad for us users because we will get less information and won't know what contents are being rejected and what's being accepted.
This is good for their ad business department because more users will click on play, incrementing the view count and generating more ad impressions.
This is good for their PR/Law departments because famous people and politicians will be less likely to complain about mass rejection.
Making the dislike count private across YouTube
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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#772Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…
I always found this information rather useless myself, so I don't see it as a huge deal. More often that not when I see a video with tons of dislike it's because it's been brigaded by an adversarial community and not really an indicator of the value of the content. In my experience it's more of a "controversial opinion" indicator than a "bad video" indicator. >There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds tha…
>More often that not when I see a video with tons of dislike it's because it's been brigaded by an adversarial community and not really an indicator of the value of the content.
Like the new Nintendo Switch Online Expansion pack video.
There's a huge community, that instantly dislikes the video.
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#773Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always found this information rather useless myself, so I don't see it as a huge deal. More often that not when I see a video with tons of dislike it's because it's been brigaded by an adversarial community and not really an indicator of the value of the content. In my experience it's more of a "controversial opinion" indicator than a "bad video" indicator. >There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds tha…
Howto videos have a wide range of qualities and the up/down ratio is indispensible so you aren't sitting through 18min of someone practicing their English or another rattling off a cocaine bender about washing cars.
Agreed. Here is a video titled "How a simple Django application works" that is 8 minutes long. It has 29 likes and 27 dislikes. It's a pretty poor quality video, in my opinion.
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#774Everyone understands that this is to protect corporate news from negative feedback. Everyone understands this.
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#775Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#776> Clearly a flawed conclusion. For the result of their experiment they deduced what they wanted it to say. Because we can easily say that the effect is not "dislike attacking" but other effects: - shy people more afraid to give their opinion not knowing that others have done the same. - the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it. Imagin…
Yes, the conclusion makes no sense.
"We removed the dislike button. This resulted in a reduction in dislikes, people are happier."
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#777> Creators: You’ll still be able to find your exact dislike counts in YouTube Studio for each video–only if you’d like to. What creator that wants to produce high quality content wouldn’t want to see how their videos are performing? Total lunacy. All this in response to “dislike attacks” which are likely extremely uncommon. > it’s an important step to reduce behavior that aims to silence and harass creators Can someo…
Also, how does this stop "dislike attacks"? If someone wants to bulk-dislike a video, the button is still there and can still affect the recommendation system.
Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#778Bummer. I often use like vs dislike ratios as a gauge on whether a video is worth watching. If I see a 3,000 up / 48 down video on a topic I'm interested in there's a really good chance the video is great. I'm a small time creator (~13.5k subs) and don't care at all about upvotes or downvotes being public. There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds that received more downvotes than expected because the vid…
I just canceled my premium subscription. I'm not taking this lightly, YT has been an important part of my life for as long as I can remember. But at this point it feels like the responsibile thing to do is to vote with my wallet. Not that a change in course is likely; their leadership has been hell bent on ruining the platform for years.
Same, companies can only be influenced by their financials these days. I even buy subscriptions I don't need with the intention of cancelling them 2-3 quarters later (need to make sure the money shows up on the books first).
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#779I really dislike how the world is going to a "forced like" model - can't show any dissenting view, argue, debate or have personal opinions.
It even goes to some facebook groups, discords and more. Say anything that's against the grain and immediate kick and ban.
What a change from the old days, where through debate you found great middle ground, or just fun chat/time waste on IRC.
Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube
#780Earlier quoted context omitted.
I always found this information rather useless myself, so I don't see it as a huge deal. More often that not when I see a video with tons of dislike it's because it's been brigaded by an adversarial community and not really an indicator of the value of the content. In my experience it's more of a "controversial opinion" indicator than a "bad video" indicator. >There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds tha…
I'm not sure. Reddit, Hacker News, etc. all offer ways for content to be downvoted. This allows for user moderation, which has pros and cons, but seems to work better against disinformation than platforms like Facebook which only allow "likes."
I'd argued before that dislikes should be removed from hn and i've removed them myself from my own view.
further, YouTube only said the dislike count is private so the moderation still happens