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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Sodman »

jeppesen-io wrote: post #594
Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

Am I missing something, isn't the pro basically the same except for a few GB of ram?

The 6 pro is 0.3" taller and 0.1" wider than the 6. But both are also significantly larger than the previous generation pixels. The Pixel 6 pro for example is 0.8" taller and 0.2" wider than the Pixel 5, which is a significant difference (especially considering you lose the rear fingerprint scanner that gave the ability to swipe down notifications from the unreachable top of the screen).

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by webmaven »

Looking at the Google Fi plans available right now, the Subscribe and Save option ($15/mo, upgrade after 2 years) for the Pixel 5a and the Pixel Pass option for the Pixel 6/6 Pro ($45-55/mo) that bundles a bunch of extra services like Google One and YouTube Premium are both interesting, but what I really want is a Subscribe and Save option for the Pixel 6.

Maybe I should just wait until a Subscribe and Save plan for a (hypothetical) Pixel 6a is available.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by lern_too_spel »

GeekyBear wrote: post #742
lern_too_spel wrote: post #511

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do not have to use Google Photos if you do not want to on any Android phone. You can upload photos to your own server in the background exactly like the Google Photos app does. On iOS, only iCloud Photos can do that. It is strictly worse for privacy.

You do not have to use iCloud Photos either. However, Google is scanning everything in your account. We recently had a thread from a historian whose entire account was suspended after Google scanned all the files in his Google Drive, and didn't like what they saw (files on the history of tanks). https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/81988101/google-l...

> You do not have to use iCloud Photos either.

If you want your photos to upload in the background, iCloud Photos is your only choice on iOS. Not so on Android. This makes backing up photos to a server privately on iOS essentially unusable.

This kind of crippling anti-privacy pro-Apple-profits design permeates iOS. You cannot even install an app on your device without giving Apple your billing details and letting them know you installed it, which is used for ads. You cannot get your location without also telling it to Apple. You cannot tell Apple not to track your WiFi SSID's location. You cannot uninstall Apple News, which is filled with user tracking for ads. On and on.

> We recently had a thread from a historian whose entire account was suspended after Google scanned all the files in his Google Drive,

You're comparing iOS to the wrong entity when you compare it to Google instead of Android, but even your comparison to Google is faulty. Your link is about Google suspending an account for files shared publicly, not about Google scanning all the files in that account. Section V.B. of https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/ says that sharing those types of images publicly is also a violation of the iCloud TOS, and Apple has the right to do the same thing. The difference is that Apple will probably handle the customer complaint better, but that is an issue of customer service, not privacy.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by nightowl_games »

a_imho wrote: post #730
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #644

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> Finally here’s a seemingly good Android phone with 5 years of support - from the only phone vendor outside of Apple who appears to give a damn about that aspect. FairPhone 4 not only promises 5 years of android software updates but also has 5 years of warranty , There are more reasons to trust their words than any of the other phone manufacturers. • They are not profit focused but rather towards sustainability, The…

Maybe I'm missing something but it looks like 4x more expensive than some equally specced Chinese phone?

His whole post was about the ethical nature of the company. Of course it's more expensive than an equally specced Chinese phone.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by nightowl_games »

vincnetas wrote: post #587
Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

thats why im still sticking with iPhone SE from 2016. this phone has perfect shape and size. no camera bump so it can be used without case and enjoy its perfect shapes. and also it costs 50€ so i don't need to worry about dropping it. it basically costs less than phone case for new iphone. and it still supports latest ios (not for long though)

I am a lifelong android user. I almost switched to iPhone during the 5 era because I loved the form factor of those solid metal edges. When iPhone 6 came out with the "Samsung esque bar of soap" I was shocked and disappointed. I think iPhones today are sooooo slippery! The iPhone SE is a really attractive device, but I am pretty deep into the android ecosystem at this point and have disapproved of a few of apples decisions. It's funny to me that companies keep copying the worst parts of each other's designs: the slipper bar of soap rounded corners, the notch, the removal of headphone jack and USB A...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by major--neither »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #439
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

One doesn't have to dream. Flashing a rom on google-branded phones is so simple, a non-tech person can follow a 5min youtube video to do it. The Nexus 6 from 2014 can have the latest android running on it - not just security updates. And unlike an iphone, it has a build that disables some eyecandy that keeps it actually usable and fast. As I understand it if you run the last supported ios on an iphone 5s, with all th…

which rom?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by nightowl_games »

qwertygnu wrote: post #323
executive wrote: post #247

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https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/

Recently spent a long time agonizing over getting a new phone. This is the only phone that checked all my boxes (small, decent ram, storage and camera, headphone jack...) but it doesn't work on Verizon :( Went with the Pixel 4a, we'll see how it goes

4a is a great choice. I think you'll be happy with it. The Samsung 10e is another similarly priced device. I think the Google photos integration is really nice. Even though the Google photos app drives me nuts sometimes.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by GeekyBear »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #774
GeekyBear wrote: post #742

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do not have to use iCloud Photos either. However, Google is scanning everything in your account. We recently had a thread from a historian whose entire account was suspended after Google scanned all the files in his Google Drive, and didn't like what they saw (files on the history of tanks). https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/81988101/google-l...

> You do not have to use iCloud Photos either. If you want your photos to upload in the background, iCloud Photos is your only choice on iOS. Not so on Android. This makes backing up photos to a server privately on iOS essentially unusable. This kind of crippling anti-privacy pro-Apple-profits design permeates iOS. You cannot even install an app on your device without giving Apple your billing details and letting the…

> If you want your photos to upload in the background, iCloud Photos is your only choice on iOS.

Nope. Background App Refresh has allowed any iOS app to update data between the server and client in the background for more than half a decade.

Apple has discussed scanning photos uploaded to the iCloud Photos portion of their cloud service in the future, but nothing is scanned now.

Google has been scanning everything in in their user's cloud accounts for the past decade.

Also, given Google's reluctance to pay human beings to supervise decisions made by their algorithms, I have zero doubt that Google is turning in users when they have a single false positive.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by soylentnewsorg »

arendtio wrote: post #695
ablekh wrote: post #637

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Obviously, not all devices have up-to-date kernels. It depends on whether they are supported by relevant Android distributions. That's why I used the phrase "quite up-to-date" instead of just "up-to-date". Unfortunately for you, LineageOS has stopped supporting i9300 Samsung Galaxy S3 with the latest official release being 14.1, which is based on Nougat (Android 7.1.2). Having said that, I ran across the following po…

Thank you for looking up that ROM, as I might want to try it out. However, you are also proving my point, even that ROM with Android 11 is still running the old 3.0.101 Linux kernel. You can see it in the video at the last row: https://youtu.be/K_i29pczfRA?t=10 So congratulations to the guy who made it possible to run Android 11 with that ancient Linux kernel, even when Android officially doesn't support it. And to i…

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-7-x-i9300-hybrid.3...

backported 4.2, which includes some of the 4.3 changes as well. supports lineage. 4.1 is a version google supports till 2024, so I'm assuming 4.2/4.3 is going to be even later. So, you got a phone from 2011 that's going to run a modern kernel and latest android till after 2024.

> And to illustrate what I mean by ancient

yes. I would love to see an iphone from 2011 that's going to be running the latest ios and apple kernel after 2024.

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