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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by me_me_me »

noveltyaccount wrote: post #293
kbenson wrote: post #121

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He was given $100 million dollars up front to crash before his expiration date. Yes, that is a brilliant move.

wow, I never heard that figure, that is staggering IMO, I've never understood why Joe was famous, never got his appeal. Per WSJ, "The deal with Mr. Rogan is a multiyear licensing agreement for an amount of time that couldn’t be learned. It will likely be worth more than $100 million based on milestones and performance metrics, according to the person familiar." Wonder what those milestones are like and how important…

say what you want about rogan, but he is a good listener. Period. He knows when to shut the fuck up and let the guest speak.

He also can talk to people he disagrees with without going into petty word fights. Despite his image he has a lot of humility, he knows and openly admits not to be the smartest man in the room. And to me comes across as a person eager to learn and hear new ideas.

I have learnt quite a lot about being good conversationalist by studying what and how he deals with guests.

He has casual (friends) episodes that are pretty repetitive but he also invites experts from all over. Those episodes are very entertaining.

(I dont use spotify so havent been following his podcast since the move)

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Post by jessaustin »

mavhc wrote: post #748
jessaustin wrote: post #537

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Name ten.

People I mostly admire The Life Scientific Ted Interview How I Built This TWIML This Week in Virology Freakonomics The Changelog And Lex Fridman and Tim Ferris have their own shows

Thanks!

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Post by rexreed »

Hold up. While I don't doubt the general conclusions of the article and most of the top comments here, the data they are using to back up their conclusions come from Social Blade which is notoriously inaccurate. Using Twitter followers growth as a proxy for influence is tenuous at best.

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Post by madeofpalk »

mikewave wrote: post #517
dalbasal wrote: post #482

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It's all competition for monopoly. No one "owned" podcasting, like itunes own streaming music and youtube own free-to-air TV. Spotify is trying to be the one that owns it. They bought exclusivity to as many top podcasts as they could in order to start centralizing podcasting on their platform. Eventually enough momentum shifts, and all the other podcasters have to go where users go, spotify. They may or may not succe…

> Spotify is trying to be the one that owns it. If you're interested in pushing back on this, the Podcasting 2.0 community welcomes you. Check out https://podcastindex.org/ for details. Podcast 2.0 apps have more metadata, chapters, cover art that can change like a slideshow during an episode, etc.

Podcast 2.0?

These just sound like standard features of the MP3 spec and are hardly new...

The open Podcast Index is great - that's the one place where the "open podcast industry" is most centralised, on Apple's podcast index

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Post by madeofpalk »

ineptech wrote: post #673
jimt1234 wrote: post #274

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Rejecting people that promote the "Sandy Hook was fake!" conspiracy theory and even harassing the parents of murdered children isn't a way to avoid offending the "progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley". It's just common decency. ... Can we at least set the bar at that level -- that we _don't_ harass the parents of murdered children for clicks?

"We must remove that stuff because those ideas are dangerous/offensive, and if you disagree with removing it then you must agree with that filth!" is extremely helpful to the sorts of people who do edgy stuff to attract attention and then try to memoryhole it once they get a big audience. I think the truth is the opposite: there are no dangerous ideas. "Sandy Hook was fake!" is stupid and wrong, but the way to defeat…

> but the way to defeat it is exposure, not erasure

Hasn't everything about the past ~5 years proven this to be completely fake?

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Post by ithkuil »

WalterBright wrote: post #443
ithkuil wrote: post #405

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Does relativity apply also to rotating reference frames?

Of course.

I mean the principle of relativity (not the theory of relativity), i.e. the fact that the laws of physics are exactly the same in any (inertial) frame of reference and you cannot tell at which speed you're moving except relative to something.

A rotating reference frame is different. A local experiment can tell you whether you're rotating and how fast you're rotating.

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Post by biofox »

madeofpalk wrote: post #774
mikewave wrote: post #517

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> Spotify is trying to be the one that owns it. If you're interested in pushing back on this, the Podcasting 2.0 community welcomes you. Check out https://podcastindex.org/ for details. Podcast 2.0 apps have more metadata, chapters, cover art that can change like a slideshow during an episode, etc.

Podcast 2.0? These just sound like standard features of the MP3 spec and are hardly new... The open Podcast Index is great - that's the one place where the "open podcast industry" is most centralised, on Apple's podcast index

Got to make it sound groundbreaking to make people care. "It even has new and improved instant-pause audio control" /s

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Post by foldr »

beerandt wrote: post #668
titzer wrote: post #259

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Yeah, when they spout obviously false, easily-checkable things like "it alters your DNA" that are clearly intended to scare people.

It's a plausible enough mistake to have happened before. Which to me, is good enough reason to not outright dismiss it as "obviously false". Some Polio vaccines were contaminated with SV40 for years, and it does, in fact, alter human DNA. For COVID-19, there have been at least 2 major cases of live virus vaccine contamination and recall. In the case of the Sputnik vaccine in Brazil and South Africa, there are claims…

The Polio/SV40 thing is itself an antivax talking point (and for the most part a load of nonsense). https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/another-antivaccine-zombie-...

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Post by Clubber »

banana_maker wrote: post #734
clipradiowallet wrote: post #699

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Interesting. I'm not pro/anti vax or anything else, but I imagined unhealthy people were taking up hospital beds disproportionally. I was interested in why you felt the way you do; thanks for sharing your opinion.

The entire raison d'être of hospitals is to treat unhealthy people when they get sick and lessen or prevent healthy individuals from getting sick. So that statement is tautological. Unvaccinated/maskless people [by choice] who then get sick with COVID and go to the hospital anyways are unnecessarily draining hospitals of their limited resources. Hospitals were already understaffed before COVID, and now unvaccinated/m…

>Choosing to not have an opinion means implicitly supporting the status quo, which where I am would mean implicitly supporting a bunch of unvaccinated, maskless people

It most certainly does not, at least to a rational person. That's very cultish thinking.

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