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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Immediately. And recently begun idly wondering if people are going to be jumping the queue. (and how they might do so...)

Highly disagree and you should stop pushing that narrative.

It is your basic human right to decide what happens with your body. And I can not blame people to reject the current vaccine situation.

Don't push the shaming narrative, it is pathetic.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's my civic duty not to, because people are trying to make it mandatory and we have to set a precedent that mandating it is unacceptable. I honestly think I would have said otherwise a year ago. But after seeing the mishandling of COVID-19, I no longer have faith in my countries ability to use emergency powers scientifically.

I don't think most Western will mandate it. But there is a strong logical case for doing so, or at least denying access to certain public spaces and services if you refuse. I don't think our politicians generally have the balls to do something that controversial though.

Denying access to public spaces and services is one step removed from mandating it...

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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post #723

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's my civic duty not to, because people are trying to make it mandatory and we have to set a precedent that mandating it is unacceptable. I honestly think I would have said otherwise a year ago. But after seeing the mishandling of COVID-19, I no longer have faith in my countries ability to use emergency powers scientifically.

I don't think most Western will mandate it. But there is a strong logical case for doing so, or at least denying access to certain public spaces and services if you refuse. I don't think our politicians generally have the balls to do something that controversial though.

I think it depends on how many people take the vaccine willingly. If enough people are vaccinated, the spread will effectively stop and countries can start to reopen.

My hunch is that enough people will be willing to take the [apparently small] risk and we won't have to pressure anyone. Also, for at least the next few months we won't even be able to meet the demand for vaccines, so it'll be a while before that's a concern.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Heck no. I dodged conscription on principle in my homeland, even though the expected risk to my health was far less severe.

If the mythical "civic society" thinks that my taking the risk is important, they should feel free to offer a fair payment in exchange, as they do to soldiers these days.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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post #723

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think most Western will mandate it. But there is a strong logical case for doing so, or at least denying access to certain public spaces and services if you refuse. I don't think our politicians generally have the balls to do something that controversial though.

Denying access to public spaces and services is one step removed from mandating it...

Yes. I think you could make a case for doing that. I don't think it will happen.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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post #723

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think most Western will mandate it. But there is a strong logical case for doing so, or at least denying access to certain public spaces and services if you refuse. I don't think our politicians generally have the balls to do something that controversial though.

I think it depends on how many people take the vaccine willingly. If enough people are vaccinated, the spread will effectively stop and countries can start to reopen. My hunch is that enough people will be willing to take the [apparently small] risk and we won't have to pressure anyone. Also, for at least the next few months we won't even be able to meet the demand for vaccines, so it'll be a while before that's a co…

Yes, that seems to be the case. Society can tolerate a certain level of antivaxxers without losing herd immunity.

Why mandate what people would do voluntarily anyway.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So your argument is "government bad". I counter with "government good". See how productive this discussion is?

I think his argument was "government is typically inefficient." is your counterclaim that government is typically efficient?

My claim is that "government bad" and similar broad brush claims about government are completely lacking in content.

But to your point, from sending humans into space to clearing snow off the roads, "government" absolutely destroys the private sector in efficiency and effectiveness for many important things. I'd rather let the CDC work on vaccine distribution protocols than leave it to Taco Bell.

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