Work for one of the big ones. Our founder likes building hospitals.
We're following suit, just haven't announced officially.
This won't be good for me. Competition with regions is going to be tough.
Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
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Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#772I work in FAANG and I am really not convinced this is the start of a trend. First Twitter was already moving towards permanent WFH before the pandemic, it only accelerated their plans. I highly doubt (m)any other companies were also seriously considering that move before the pandemic. Second, working in a remote only team is very different from working in an office, or even from occasionally working from home. I have…
They can just change the policy back at anytime.
And what, tell everyone to move to San Francisco tomorrow?
Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#773Just to add a perspective, I work for a FAANG and we have no plans to go remote and will very much be office based. In fact, most of the company is yearning to go back to work. But our office space is pretty nice as well. I personally am sick and tired of working from home and can’t wait to return to work. I am tired of poor ergonomics of my home office, tired of constantly having to schedule formal zoom calls for every casual chat, staring at the screen all day, and not have any in person connection all day. My neck and back is hurting. And I am putting on more weight simply because I am glued to a chair all day.
Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#774Just to add a perspective, I work for a FAANG and we have no plans to go remote and will very much be office based. In fact, most of the company is yearning to go back to work. But our office space is pretty nice as well. I personally am sick and tired of working from home and can’t wait to return to work. I am tired of poor ergonomics of my home office, tired of constantly having to schedule formal zoom calls for ev…
Theres a difference between remote work and being locked in your home.
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#775Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's stopping someone from moving to SF for higher comp on hiring, then getting a P.O. box or friend's mailing address in SF and moving back to work from lower cost area after some time? Is your employer really going to decrease your salary after the fact? Can you file taxes in your lower cost of living state after you lock in your high SF comp package and never notify your employer but still pay your taxes in the…
Location should not affect salary since when it comes to remote work it is completely irrelevant.
Some companies agree with that and some don’t. For companies that disagree with you statement, the rationale is really simple: the company is ready to pay top $ because cost of life is high. They know that the rent you’ll pay is high hence the money. They’re reducing their net profit (ebitda) to lay the high salary you need to pay your rent. They do that because your rent in SF is what it is. But for those companies, there’s no way they reduce their ebitda for you to profit off that.
The other companies, who pay on value of output, will agree with that statement. As far as I know, most companies fall under cost of life approach rather than value of output.
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#776Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are wrong that FAANG companies will pay the same salary as you make in SF if you are in a low cost state like Indiana. I have a friend at one of those companies and they were running a survey to gauge employee's keenness for permanent wfh - and they were very clear that employee's salary will be adjusted based on which city they are based in. So, while this is still healthy, since FAANG pays pretty well, but don'…
What's stopping someone from moving to SF for higher comp on hiring, then getting a P.O. box or friend's mailing address in SF and moving back to work from lower cost area after some time? Is your employer really going to decrease your salary after the fact? Can you file taxes in your lower cost of living state after you lock in your high SF comp package and never notify your employer but still pay your taxes in the…
> Is your employer really going to decrease your salary after the fact?
Yes. I have remote working friends who've been required to take a pay cut because they moved.
Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#777I work in FAANG and I am really not convinced this is the start of a trend. First Twitter was already moving towards permanent WFH before the pandemic, it only accelerated their plans. I highly doubt (m)any other companies were also seriously considering that move before the pandemic. Second, working in a remote only team is very different from working in an office, or even from occasionally working from home. I have…
I have been fully remote for about 2 years. My personal experience is that collaboration is way easier when being remote. When I need to talk to a team i just drop a line in their slack room and I usually get an answer within minutes. So much easier than walking down the hallway and hoping that someone is in the team office area (not to mention no social awkwardness involved). Also when most people are remote in your company, you are in most hallway discussions! Just subscribe to the channels and read it. Not to mention lurking when high level engineers talk about stuff. I never really interacted with principal level engineers when I worked in an office. Now I just need to know which channel to listen to.
Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#778Just to add a perspective, I work for a FAANG and we have no plans to go remote and will very much be office based. In fact, most of the company is yearning to go back to work. But our office space is pretty nice as well. I personally am sick and tired of working from home and can’t wait to return to work. I am tired of poor ergonomics of my home office, tired of constantly having to schedule formal zoom calls for ev…
You sound so attached to that FAANG office of yours. Use that FAANG salary to get a nice chair, a sturdy table, good coffee and a coffee machine. Home or office, staring at a screen all day ain't good for no one. And that weight is from the eating not the sitting. Try cutting that out a bit and run around your home, setup a home gym, do some pushups. And for fucks sake turn that phone off, shut that laptop and get some good sleep. I'm on my way to get some. Good night and good luck.
Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#779Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's stopping someone from moving to SF for higher comp on hiring, then getting a P.O. box or friend's mailing address in SF and moving back to work from lower cost area after some time? Is your employer really going to decrease your salary after the fact? Can you file taxes in your lower cost of living state after you lock in your high SF comp package and never notify your employer but still pay your taxes in the…
If your employer thinks you're in California, they'll tell the California tax authorities that you are. CA will use that as evidence that you owe them a big chunk of your income. If you don't pay, you'll have to fight. To win, you'll probably have to prove that you misled your employer, which will probably result in your getting fired for it. If you lose, CA can force your employer to take the tax out of your salary,…
There are lowcost areas of CA.
Re: Twitter Will Allow Employees to Work at Home Forever
#780I work in FAANG and I am really not convinced this is the start of a trend. First Twitter was already moving towards permanent WFH before the pandemic, it only accelerated their plans. I highly doubt (m)any other companies were also seriously considering that move before the pandemic. Second, working in a remote only team is very different from working in an office, or even from occasionally working from home. I have…
The value of the valley has always been the hallway chat. You can't easily replicate that with a zoom culture.
Is that so? Open source projects (e.g., Linux, Emacs) make lots of progress without a "hallway".