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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Vinnl »

cptskippy wrote: post #298
Vinnl wrote: post #111

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This might be too much for you, but if it's looking too tight, note that there's also a Density menu at the bottom in the customisation screen that lets you widen the interface (including, presumably, the bars).

I have my density set to compact, changing it affects the vertical space of everything except the bookmarks and menu bars. They remain incredibly tight.

That sounds like something that shouldn't happen! Care reporting it to them? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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aquova wrote: post #216
Vinnl wrote: post #10

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Depends on your needs. If it's mostly the shortcuts, Vimium works pretty well (at least for me). If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks.

Has Vimium been updated to work under the new extension system?

Vimium wasn't even available for Firefox before (it was a Chrome extension), but it is now.

VimFx hasn't, but Vimium has replaced it for me.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Vinnl »

Karunamon wrote: post #115
Vinnl wrote: post #10

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Depends on your needs. If it's mostly the shortcuts, Vimium works pretty well (at least for me). If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks.

Vent mode on: That is pathetic. More paternalistic nannying of the user, making their life actively worse in favor of closing off a very limited security hole. If that’s the mindset, wouldn’t it be even safer to not have a browser at all?

Well, yes, but people are going to have browsers. This does make it easier for me to install Firefox for my mom and not have her call me about "not being able to visit websites anymore" and me having to figure out something removed her address bar or something.

I mean, obviously there's pros and cons, but it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by Vinnl »

zeveb wrote: post #262
Vinnl wrote: post #10

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Depends on your needs. If it's mostly the shortcuts, Vimium works pretty well (at least for me). If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks.

> If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks. That's total BS. It's my software running on my computer. I get to decide what I consider a security risk, not Mozilla.

Yes, but at the same time, I'm installing software on my mom's computer, and unfortunately, she's not a good judge of what is a security risk. I'd trust Mozilla with that more.

As I said elsewhere, it is frustrating as well. But it's not like there aren't upsides to it as well, that just might not apply to us.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by SllX »

mkup wrote: post #534

Firefox Quantum feels very fast, but addon support is disappointing :( + uBlock Origin - Self-Destructing Cookies - YesScript - Video DownloadHelper - Save Session

Self-Destructing Cookies isn't supported anymore. I just found that out myself a bit earlier and am giving Cookies AutoDelete a shot.

Edit: Forgot to mention but if you check the add-ons site, you should be able to find an updated extension for Video DownloadHelper.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by pluma »

daveheq wrote: post #708
parmesan wrote: post #116

I just updated - WOW! What an improvement! Compared startup time and scrolling around some over-monetized sites; Behaves just as well as Chrome. Time for a switch again, I've missed FireFox since I started having Chrome as my default browser back in ~2011

Now Google just needs to test their apps like Drive on it... I stopped using Firefox partly because they were so buggy on it.

If this were Microsoft in the 90s, everyone would be calling this anti-competitive behavior. Saying they're just buggy because they're not tested well is putting it much more nicely.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by pluma »

V-2 wrote: post #608
forgot-my-pw wrote: post #445

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Firefox is pretty similar looking as Chrome now. I liked FF before cause it looked different, now everyone just copies Chrome look.

Does it? As a matter of fact, it's much more similar to MS Edge. With dark theme it's super close in terms of look. Rectangular, beefy tabs.

I'm not sure what you mean by "beefy". Do you mean the "touch" density with the very large tabs and icons? I'm on "compact" and it's very similar to Chrome except for the right-angled tabs. You can switch between three levels of density:

https://winaero.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/firefox-...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by pluma »

Yoric wrote: post #238
doodpants wrote: post #180

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> Note that the webextension APIs are still under active development. In which case, switching to webextension support exclusively is premature at this point, don't you think? It would have been better to wait until the API was robust enough to allow 99.99% of legacy extensions to be ported.

Unfortunately, this would have meant no Firefox Quantum. As a Firefox dev (I'm still working at Mozilla, although not much on Firefox atm), I have seen many, many occurrences in which I couldn't optimize codepaths, or even in some case fix bugs, because the old extension mechanism made it impossible. Consider the necessary steps: 1. realize that an internal API is broken; 2. come up with a new non-broken API; 3. port…

Ignore the naysayers. Thank you for this. I've been dodging legacy add-ons already because they like to interfere with multi-process mode, killing Firefox's performance. Ubuntu's crappy legacy add-on actually nearly made me dismiss Firefox out of hand when I first gave it another try in February.
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