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New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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They could use ddr4, cpu supports it

You can't fit DDR4 SODIMMs on a notebook of this form factor. And this processor generation doesn't support LPDDR4 memory yet.

Indeed it doesnt support LPDDR4, I was wrong. Thanks!

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Not to go too far off topic, but I'm surprised at the number of vim users in this thread who still use the escape key and haven't mapped it to something that doesn't require you to move your finger to the most inconvenient spot of the entire keyboard. Sometime 10 years ago I took someone's advice and remapped jj to escape in my vimrc. By far one of the best changes I've ever made. the speed gain is significant (unless your name is JJ Abrams)

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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All softwares, including wim, will come with a plugin (or a built in feature) to display a custom menu on it, including the equivalent of an escape key. And you can bet the first app to be developpped will be something to display the old Fx bar in the widget. I usually really dislike apple politics, being a linux boy myself, but I can see how this, while causing some issues, can be an interesting tool. You want peopl…

Between VMs, Chrome, maybe Chromium/Firefox/Safari it is easy to get to 16gb

With docker, firefox, chrome and the android emulator running, I can't reach 14GB. I probably could by faking it, but I've been dev on an 4 Go machine for years and it was ok.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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In fact, Karabiner can map caps lock to both control (if you use it with another key) and escape (if you just press it). Which is fantastic.

No, not in Sierra, because Karabiner classic does not work in Sierra. Karabiner-Elements, which is Sierra-only, can only do basic key remapping. None of the fancy stuff.

Yet. There's a pull request in the works that would do just that:

https://github.com/tekezo/Karabiner-Elements/pull/247

You could build from the latest update and get that functionality.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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But what if your IDE simply adds the debugger buttons to the touch strip instead? They could even have the correct icons and update state as you debug. Seems even better to me.

And/or other keyboard shortcuts. This is not some immutable situation. I don't know why everyone is unnecessarily freaking out over this non-issue that has so many alternative solutions, some of which will be superior.

It's really odd when people say "I need one function key for some application specific operation", when those kinds of things are pretty much exactly what an adaptable, customizable touch row is perfect for. If apple could have read the touch bar complaints before, they probably would have been convinced to put a touch bar in earlier.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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You immediately lost any credibility when you complained that the 2.4 GHz processor is the "same" as the one back in 2010. Clock rate has nothing to do with performance these days. Skylake is 25-35% faster across the board (and multiples faster for number crunching) than whatever Nehalem or Core2 was in the Macbooks in 2010.

25% faster is still a joke. I want 100%!

It's probably closer to 90% as another person notes, with far greater power efficiency. If that's not enough, feel free to complain to intel or alternatively, the laws of physics

If you expected shit to shrink linearly over time, our transistors would be occupying negative space right now. If you expected clocks to increase linearly, we'd need liquid nitrogen and shit would be full on behaving like waves. That is the reality until we leave silicon land.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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The killer is that the lack of feedback on that bar would probably make it difficult to touch type the "buttons" on that classic layout

I am sure people could adjust to this. I am not certain how many people actually use those buttons without looking at the keyboard anyway. When I learned to type the function keys weren't included, I for one, always have to look when use a function key, and generally have to look when typing numbers too.

If you're constantly using one or two function keys, it's fairly common to do it by memory. For example I can hit the volume and brightness buttons and f5 without looking. But really, all the other functions that will become available with the touch bar will more than make up for the time lost looking down.

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Although people place a lot of trust in Apple, I think the proverb of "trust but verify" applies here. We shouldn't just take it on faith that Apple has made the correct choice.

What does "correct" mean? They are at least consistent. For decades they remove major hardware controls and ports that were initially thought to be critical for use. They were the first to get rid of CD drives, floppy drives, the list is quite long.

The reality is that apple has been pretty much universally right whenever they ditch something "way too soon". There's never been a moment when a year down the line apple realized "wait, this USB thing is never going to catch on, go back to the old ports we were wrong!"

Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Mixed feelings about this. Everyone says: "if you dont like MBP there are dozens of options in these brands" etc. That leaves you basically: Linux or Windows.

If you are a 100% developer, Linux is obviously the option to go. But if you happen to be a hybrid and use some kind of design graphic tools, such as anything from Adobe, then you are forced to stay with Windows.

The new Surface Book looks awesome, but its running Windows 10! 16GB of ram means nothing under window. The whole system itself needs those 16GB and eventually it becomes a dinosaur that will expand itself and use the 1TB of space you put in there.

Want it or not, so many people are still forced to stay with Apple for those reasons, and they know it. They can literally do whatever they want and these people will have to keep using MBP.

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