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Re: MacBook Pro

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This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

It is being years since Apple did anything innovative yet they are gaining users. Status conscious Chinese and Indians is their new Market and all they want is Apple in their homes and pockets.

Re: MacBook Pro

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I know USB-C is the future, but it's going to be a long, long, long time before all our devices are using it - particularly external displays. My current Macbook Pro has an HDMI port. I use it every day. I do not want to carry a converter dongle with me everywhere (I did that with my old Air that only had a DisplayPort). To echo other complaints: this is supposed to be a professional machine. I don't care about it be…

I agree that their devices have been getting unnecessarily thin, but their aggressive push towards Type-C is for the best. The industry will follow Apple's lead as usual, and in a year's time most devices will be Type-C compatible. In the interim, I don't see the big deal with throwing an HDMI adapter in your bag unless you carry your laptop around in your hand.

Of course not being able to plug in USB sticks, mice, keyboards, or anything really due to lack of USB-A port is a significantly huge hassle and a rather big step back for "it just works" motto of previous laptops :/

Re: MacBook Pro

#773
Can anyone here give me Buying Advice?

Mine just died and I was really looking forward to this event because I have wanted to switch to Mac for a while now (I really don't like the "new" Windows interface and I've only had trouble with my previous Windows Laptops) but I don't see a reason to pay what would amount to about 2 months pay for one of the just announced MBp.

I want to be able to do all kinds of hardware intensive things (photo and video editing, data science/statistics, maybe software development) because I don't know what exactly I will need my laptop for yet and want it to last for at least 4-5 years. I'd also love my machine to be designed with some care, I just can't stand the look of the Thinkpad series.

Any ideas?

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What I wanted: - 7th generation Intel chips. Skylake (6th generation) is from August 2015. - A move to Nvidia GPUs - Retain the magsafe power adapter - At least one dedicated display-out port, preferably HDMI - 32GB RAM for the 15 inch base model - Support for the airpods using their new W1 chip What I'm mad they included: - Price increase for low value - Touch Bar does away with physical keys I use daily (most impor…

They used to have Nvidia gpus as an option (mine is, from 2014). Soo.. looks like they are staying away from Nvidia now

> They used to have Nvidia gpus as an option (mine is, from 2014).

And the laptops tended to die because of that (mine is, from 2010)

Re: MacBook Pro

#775

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

It's just trendy to complain about everything Apple does although most likely 90% of the complainers will be getting these new macbooks anyway. If they just push the specs up, increase battery life..."Apple isn't innovating anymore", "So what's new?", "It looks just like my old MBP" etc. Now that they actually bring something innovative you'll get this kind of complains. Now no matter if people liked this event or no…

It used to be trendy to be a fanboy about everything Apple does. So maybe there's something to it after all.

Re: MacBook Pro

#776

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

16GB max. No iMac update. No Mac Pro update. Buyer's Guide on MacRumors now: "iMac: Might as well buy. Nothing on the horizon." "Mac Pro: Buy. If you like paying 2013 prices for 2013 hardware."

> 16GB max

You can have 16 GB ram on a 2011 ThinkPad X220.

Just saying.

Re: MacBook Pro

#777
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Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I think initially "pro" actually meant "for professional users," but it's clearly now just a marketing term. As a professional user, I want at least a mixture of port options (hdmi, usb) and a keyboard that supports touch-typing, not some gimmicky band I'm going to have to look at to see what it's showing. I've been using macs for ~20 years but my next laptop will not be from Apple.

I think Apple now thinks of the Pro as someone who is a pro at using a OS X and their consumer software line... They edit family videos in iMovie, write jams in Garageband and edit their photos in Photos! These novel features are geared directly for them, not the real professionals.

Re: MacBook Pro

#778

I think there's one fact that a lot of people overlooked here. The new touchbar is optional. The new MBP comes in two models and one still has your typical function row. I do agree that the announcement was disappointing, leaving me questioning if I'd get a new macbook anytime soon. I would have liked some more ram but its not work flow changing for those of us who are already accustomed to mac laptops.

You also don't get TB3 without the touchbar.

you get 2x tb3 ports on the model without a touchbar. ( http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/ )

Re: MacBook Pro

#779

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Microsoft announced a better $3000 monitor+computer alternative to a $2500 (3000 Euros - depending where you live) monitor (cintiq).

Re: MacBook Pro

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I hate to take away from the complaining in here but I actually think it looks pretty nice. I was pleasantly surprised with the interactions they demonstrated with the new ribbon display. I knew they were going to announce it and didn't think I'd care but I will walk away from the video with the feeling that I want one.

The use case I didn't think of was photoshop full screen and moving controls and menus to the touch bar. Nice idea.
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