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Re: iPhone 7

#771

the price for heaven's sake... it's me or every year the new model gets almost 100 bucks more expensive the the previous one. We can expect a base price of 1000€ in 5 or 6 years.

lol, are you Canadian?

Re: iPhone 7

#772
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently paid $350+ for Bose wireless noise cancelling headphones, the problem with over the ear headphones is that I can't wear them for a long time while I work for example, my head become hot and I want to hear what is around. I like the weight of the regular iphone headphones, I can wear them indefinitely, I am pretty sure case will be the same with AirPods, so I think the price is justified.

Honest question: why would you buy noise cancelling headphones for situations when you want to hear what is around? Did you buy them for other use cases and also decide to use them at work?

Noise cancelling works very good when you don't listen to music, like when I need to concentrate at work but still want to hear relatively loud noises around me (like toddler calling door bell).

Re: iPhone 7

#773

I'm curious if this spells the end for the headphone jack in the industry. Now that's gone from the iPhone, should we expect other phones to drop it? What about tablets and laptops?

You can pry my cheap $5 headphones from my cold, dead fingers. No way am I paying $150+ for something I'm likely to lose several times a year.

Re: iPhone 7

#774
I suppose the iPhone7 is nice if you like being told what you need by the largest corporation on the planet.

Re: iPhone 7

#775
It's official, Apple is basically resorting to nickle and diming their customers, except instead of nickles and dimes, it's $160 to achieve very basic functionality in order to achieve something that virtually nobody really honestly cares about. All that's been achieved is that Apple has now created/affirmed a new non-optional secondary market that they're now positioned to best sell into (Beats). There's not even the decency to see if people care about a thinner phone by offering both a thin model without a jack and a thicker phone with one (for some strategically important price differential).

But honestly, complaints and analysis don't matter, people will line up to buy this garbage and to make it worse it'll become a stupid trend that will bleed over into Android-land and now instead of the perfectly fine $10 headphones I picked up at Big Lots, I'll have to shell out 10x that so I can listen to a podcast on my way to work.

edit and they don't even have the respect for their customers to ship their stupid buds on time with the product that requires them...so that their customers can look like bluetooth douchebags from both sides.

Re: iPhone 7

#776

I'm not even upset about the headphone jack. Whatever. I'm really upset because you won't be able to do the following: 1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. 2.) Listening to music at desk and still have enough charge for the Audio+GPS for the drive home. 3.) No more listening to music/audiobooks as I fall asleep because in the morning the iPhone won't be charged for my desk usage the next day unless I wake up…

1.) Audio+GPS+Charging in non-Bluetooth Car. Is your car older than 3 years? If not, what prevents you from listening to audio via USB?

In addition to the question of cars which don't have it, software quality a huge problem and cars don't get software updates.

I've rented a fair number of cars while traveling in the last year and hit a number of problems:

* Everything Ford makes has a bug where the car's computer will lock for a minute or two and either crash / decide the phone doesn't exist or display a blocking modal dialog telling you that you have too many tracks on your phone if you connect it using USB. I have ~11K tracks (iTunes Match) and that's apparently more than they tested with. Toyota had a similar failure with USB.

* Bluetooth is more miss than hit: pairing is usually buried in the UI, slow, and reconnects are unreliable so you might have to try a couple of times before anything connects.

* None of the cars have a UI designed for more than a handful of tracks so while you can get something to play eventually, the experience is terrible.

* Not everyone supplies enough power to charge over USB or does so inconsistently, so you may arrive with 10% battery if you used the GPS.

100% of vehicles with AUX in lines work perfectly every time without any fussing. I want something like Bluetooth to work but there's this massive market failure where almost nobody seems to have a QA team or a support process where updates actually happen (BMW suggested that a friend buy a newer car to fix their bugs). I'll give Subaru an honorable mention for having reliable software but they desperately need to hire some UX specialists.

Re: iPhone 7

#777

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that cameras are nice and so are Retina displays but what we'd really like to see is a big splashy page about whatever's new with the Secure Enclave Processor in the 7. Not because there's anything wrong with the 6! Ivan Krstic's talk about Apple platform security at Black Hat was probably the best talk of the whole event. Nobody is delivering seamlessly integrated chips…

It's probably in vain but I keep hoping that Apple will decide to enter the two-factor auth market with something like the U2F design where the Secure Enclave could sign challenges. It'd be really nice if there was an Apple ID-for-the-web to go along with Apple Pay.

Re: iPhone 7

#778

$160 for the AirPods? My goodness those are expensive.

I'm really curious about these. I wear hearing aids and these things seem damn close in a lot of respects, except about $5000 cheaper. The hearing aid industry has seen a lot of pressure from consumer electronics (which is great) and I hope this only increases that pressure.

I could totally envision v2 of these having better battery life and being able to "enhance" hearing the same way a hearing aid does. Also, more people using these will hopefully reduce the stigma some see with wearing hearing aids.

Re: iPhone 7

#779
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I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

Airpods will get lost within days

Re: iPhone 7

#780
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From the website, big and bold: "iPhone. Now in stereo." Honest question, not having owned an iPhone before - is this really the first iPhone that can produce stereo sound through the speakers? If true, that seems like a crazy thing to advertise given how standard a feature it has been in most phones for so long. On the other hand, if iPhones have had stereo output already, why shout about it now?

It's stereo in the sense that there's a speaker on the top and bottom of the phone, so that when watching media with the phone in landscape orientation you can hear good stereo audio. I'm not aware of another phone that does this; I'm sure they exist, but it's not a common feature.

It's been available for a few years on several Android phones:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-phones-with-front-stereo...

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