Its bad for natives and African Americans. The whole system is designed to keep them poor and powerless
progressive with a throwaway account: "We can't expect BIPOC people to pass SATs, because of reasons". The reason is racism. The evidence shows the opposite, SAT testing allows hardworking/gifted minorities to get ahead.
Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM
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Re: Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM
#762"In 11th grade, the most relevant grade relating to college readiness, 30.5% of students met or exceeded math learning standards. Of these, nearly half exceeded the learning standard — marking them as likely to be the best prepared for a college STEM major." You can see this 30.5% in the 'grade 11' chart on this page: https://tools.encona.com/caaspp-explorer#slots=state&s=math Politicians in California want the ethni…
That's a satisfiable goal, but it means they have to accept that they need extremely broad and deep remedial courses, and they need to treat admissions more or less like a community college does. Is that what they're looking to do? What are their goals regarding the existing community college system?
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Crazy that such a load bearing job isn't better funded and more respected. Arguably the most important job in society and the level of respect, pay and to some extent training (at least a lot of places require a masters for what that's worth) is absolutely not commensurate with it's importance. I dropped out of high school for the same reason, I had a teacher that failed me for writing an essay in three different sty…
education is highly funded. teachers are not paid well because there is a perception that "anyone can be a teacher" (which is true in the sense that there is no particular enumerable qualification or credential that makes you a good teacher) so the market is full of people who decide that they should be a teacher (many should not, but there is no a priori way of knowing). supply high. a lot of education funding goes…
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Having just shipped the kiddo into the real world, she's leaning liberal arts (her and her mom suck at math), but she has a benefit neither her mom or I had - EU deal citizenship. She's going to do a year here to figure things out - she's also been thinking about Europe. University in Europe, for undergrad, is different than the US. I think the large class model and a barrier of exams to advance makes sense in Europe…
Does EU dual citizenship help with university if you are not currently a resident of the EU? I always thought the low EU-local fees for European universities were based on EU residency, not citizenship.
The harder problem is to enter Germany, but as you have EU citizenship, that's not a problem for you.
Re: Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM
#765I can’t help comparing this to the system I grew up in (Italy), which is vastly different and it seemingly produces very good graduates. University was free and there was no test for enrolling in STEM degrees, and you could retry exams every semester as much as you wanted to. But goddamit exams were HARD and if you weren’t prepared enough you would keep failing until you gave up. We weren’t entitled because we weren’…
What about the demands on the time of professors from students who repeatedly try and fail the exams? Seems like that could get expensive for taxpayers. Maybe it doesn’t happen much in practice?
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#766Re: Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM
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You've got to be kidding. Writing longhand was always a miserable experience for me no matter what technique or pen I used. Typing on a keyboard is so much faster and more fluent.
Same. Slowly writing things out by hand is excruciating for me. I would always refuse to do it, even as a kid. Rarely took notes.
Re: Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM
#768I can’t help comparing this to the system I grew up in (Italy), which is vastly different and it seemingly produces very good graduates. University was free and there was no test for enrolling in STEM degrees, and you could retry exams every semester as much as you wanted to. But goddamit exams were HARD and if you weren’t prepared enough you would keep failing until you gave up. We weren’t entitled because we weren’…
What about the demands on the time of professors from students who repeatedly try and fail the exams? Seems like that could get expensive for taxpayers. Maybe it doesn’t happen much in practice?
Re: Citing 'severe' math deficits, UC faculty demand a return to SAT tests for STEM
#769I can’t help comparing this to the system I grew up in (Italy), which is vastly different and it seemingly produces very good graduates. University was free and there was no test for enrolling in STEM degrees, and you could retry exams every semester as much as you wanted to. But goddamit exams were HARD and if you weren’t prepared enough you would keep failing until you gave up. We weren’t entitled because we weren’…
What about the demands on the time of professors from students who repeatedly try and fail the exams? Seems like that could get expensive for taxpayers. Maybe it doesn’t happen much in practice?
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blackboards in uni where you can't do anything but just rewrite everything the prof is writing is a nightmarish waste of time, especially for anyone with any kind of attention difficulties please remove the devices from the students but provide slides
If you have attention difficulties perhaps uni isn't the place for you.