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Re: Claude Design

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Post by littlestymaar »

mbesto wrote: post #450
mjr00 wrote: post #55

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There's no shame in being homogenous and obvious, though. If I'm building out an internal tool for, say, a hospital lawyer to search through malpractice lawsuits, I want my tool to be the most familiar, obvious, least-surprising UI/UX possible. Just stay out of the way and do what it's supposed to do. The trick is, of course, that the human is still responsible for knowing when homogenous is fine, or when there's rea…

> There's no shame in being homogenous and obvious, though. The real world analog is this... The reason people (especially Americans) stay in Marriott property hotels is because they are homogenous. If all I want to do is travel to Phoenix, AZ for work I want to know that the hotel room has the same mattress, desk, TV, customer service, etc. There is real legitimate value to that. So I'll book the Courtyard in Phoeni…

> when I'm traveling the Amalfi Coast in Italy, I want the Airbnb experience

Unfortunately, Airbnb itself have turned into an IKEA showroom experience …

Re: Claude Design

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Post by embedding-shape »

Tepix wrote: post #650
sdoering wrote: post #459

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It is actually a rational choice. It is a defense against extremely bad experiences. A personal example from a few weeks back. My SO booked a hotel for a weekend as a birthday present. We went there, it had a fantastic spa, dinner was delicious, the room great, clean, and so on. Individually designed, well thought out, friendly staff. Breakfast came around and the coffee was abysmal. Really truly abysmal. What did we…

You didn‘t talk to the hotel and asked why their coffee was so bad?

I'm guessing if they see McDonalds coffee as "okay and drinkable", this might be a different problem than the way the hotel makes the coffee. Or maybe the McDonalds we have here in Spain is just much more terrible than in the US, but I'll take random bar/pub coffee or even machine coffee over what they serve at McDonalds.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by michaelteter »

ljm wrote: post #18

I reckon something like this has only been possible to develop because of how homogenous the internet has become in terms of design ever since the glass effect and drop-shadows took over in Web 2.0 and Twitter Bootstrap entered the scene. You'll get a competent UI with little effort but nothing truly unique or mind-blowing. Impressive technology, but that old skool artisanal weirdness of yore only becomes more valuab…

Most day to day apps and websites should be boring and usable, not truly unique or mind-blowing.

In fact, humans waste countless hours trying to figure out what is what and how things work, just because there's always some designer trying to do something nifty. And by "designer", I don't necessarily mean professionally trained designer - although the pros can be given to trying to make artistic rather than functional interfaces.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by bombcar »

9rx wrote: post #678
bombcar wrote: post #263

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I don't remember people complaining about Winamp being a non-standard UI, but if it were slow then there'd be tons of complaints - and many of the "fancy" UIs were terribly slow (or the programs were, hard for a user to tell the difference).

That is in large part because there was no uncanny valley, so to speak. Where it was different, it was different with a purpose and was intentional about it. Where there was no purpose, like in secondary menus, it still used native widgets like users expected. The parent is talking about toolkits like Swing where things looked[1] almost, sort of, but not quite like the native system. That wanted to be native, but for…

I still cringe every time I get Minecraft to pop up a generic Java UI window on a Mac (of course it now even looks out of place on Windows).

Re: Claude Design

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Post by a4isms »

cambaceres wrote: post #755
mbesto wrote: post #450

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> There's no shame in being homogenous and obvious, though. The real world analog is this... The reason people (especially Americans) stay in Marriott property hotels is because they are homogenous. If all I want to do is travel to Phoenix, AZ for work I want to know that the hotel room has the same mattress, desk, TV, customer service, etc. There is real legitimate value to that. So I'll book the Courtyard in Phoeni…

Would you like your hammer to have a new and innovative design, or do you want it to look exactly like any other hammer? The majority of UIs exist for the user to perform a task as effectively as possible, and they benefit from being familiar.

> they benefit from being familiar.

“Intuitive Equals Familiar,” a classic from Jef Raskin, the man who started the Macintosh¹ project at Apple:

https://www.asktog.com/papers/raskinintuit.html

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¹ Only to have Steve take it away. Jef left and created the Canon Cat, an opinionated computer that eschewed the WIMP interface in favour of anchoring n incremental search. Steve would also leave and create NeXT, and Canon would invest in NeXT as well.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by hombre_fatal »

baxtr wrote: post #735
stringfood wrote: post #669

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The important point is that 2 years ago these AI tools were like 20% percentile for UX designers, today it is as good as a junior or normal UI UX Developer, 2 years from now it will be in 90th percentile, etc

But again: who is actually using/commanding the tool to create the designs?

Someone who is wearing more hats than they used to.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by airstrike »

bauerd wrote: post #309
pilgrim0 wrote: post #285

On Notes on the Synthesis of Form, Alexander defines design as the rationalization of the forces that define a problem. You’ll won’t find a better definition. But people tend to think design is the synthesis and its results. This misunderstanding of the role of design and the designer is responsible for all the unfit designs we encounter on a daily basis. Anyone equipped with a synthesis tool and feeling empowered to…

This is a really verbose way to say that using generative AI has a detrimental effect on the user because one deprives themselves of the learning experience.

Your point is maybe 25% of the original, so no, it's not just a really verbose way to say the same thing.

In fact, there's a palpable irony in your decision to make that comment, which only reinforces the OP.

Re: Claude Design

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Post by TrackerFF »

TrackerFF wrote: post #732

I've said it many times since 2022: Many wrapper startups and even billion dollar companies are living on borrowed time, until the big dogs (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc.) simply release their products as a built-in function.

Also, I'll echo some of the other users here: I think some of these AI-giants are going for the Google route, where they launch a wide range of products to lock in users to their suite. Switching between models by provider is quite fluid these days. Becoming reliant on a product suite is much more sticky.

The big question is, of course, how invested will they (the companies) be in their products? Will it be a re-run of Google where far too many products end up being scrapped after a year or two?

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