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I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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> My laptop is a 2014 MacBook Air, which is still a pretty solid machine.

as a long-term contributor to a website that benchmarks (quite extensively!) notebooks of all sorts, quite interesting to see the choice of portable machine.

quite aligned with the overall take and was well-supported with examples.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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I can't use Linux because it doesn't have offline installers (without hacks and workarounds), even if I were willing to ditch decades worth of engineering software, Adobe and old games. I am replacing Win11 with Win10 and Win7.

What? You can just put the executable in your path (in simpler terms put the program where the OS will look for it). You have the install command which does that and sets some permissions. That's not a hack that's just how it works. There's also apt-offline[0] which is apt (the package manager on Debian/Ubuntu and the rest) but wait for it... offline.

Of course you will need to get the source or the executable on the machine by some method, such as a USB or whatever. But I'm pretty sure Windows or Mac can't create software out of thin air either. Can you give me an example of a workflow that you use on Windows that you would like on Linux? I'm pretty sure I can help you solve it without hacks.

If you forget what you believe "installing" software means I'm sure you can learn to appreciate Linux and maybe even see that it's simpler and easier than Windows.

[0]: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/apt-offline...

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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> It’s still too confusing for the average user (many distros, many desktop environments, Wayland vs X, systemd vs init, snap vs flatpak). Users don't need to know about any of that, except for picking a distro and just using whatever is there. Regarding DAW - I get sticking with Windows if you have thousands invested in it. Even so, there's quite a bit of professional software out there with native support (like Bit…

> (like Bitwig) Been there, done that... worked fine but with an unacceptable performance penalty.

Compared to which software? Ableton? Reaper? Did you use RT kernel? JACK or ALSA? Pipewire?

DE will also affect performance.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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>> Only thing holding me back is Adobe Lightroom. You might be interested in Darktable or the less common fork called Ansel. https://www.darktable.org/ https://ansel.photos/en/ These have Windows versions you can try before moving your world to Linux.

I tested literally all alternatives to Lightroom, including even other commercial Windows only software, just because I want to get off the subscription. I tested two specific functions I use and need, and zero of all other programs do them well. It's frustrating.

Which two specific functions?

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Desktop Windows still has rough edges. Desktop MacOS still has rough edges. Desktop Linux still has rough edges. Pick your poison. Niche professional software may lack native Windows support or require workarounds. Windows has a strong grip in enterprise environments where it is desirable to remove desktop control from users. You have things like FreeIPA and Samba making weak offers beyond directory services in that…

> Desktop Windows still has rough edges. Desktop MacOS still has rough edges. Desktop Linux still has rough edges. Pick your poison. I think this sentiment is often overlooked as people are used to their 'poison'. As someone who uses Linux a their main personal machine (with dual boot to Windows every now and then) as well as W11 for work, it's amazing what you get used to. I was almost agreeing with OP, remembering…

>That machine also does not go to sleep properly (a common, real, complaint from many linux users) and I have to hibernate it manually via command line as the option does not exist in my power menu due to corporate's rules and regulations.

Are you required to make it sleep (perhaps due to a security directive)? If so, then why are you doing this? You should simply refuse, and tell IT it doesn't work. Then let them fix the problem, since it's a security issue. It's not your job to come up with workarounds for the IT department's failures.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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These articles... I'm not sure who are the target audience, because I am definitely not and I don't know anyone who is. Specific OS is not the important, anything with modern KDE is good enough to replace Windows 10/11. But do I (and all my colleagues) need Microsoft Office (Word, Excel at least) and/or Drawing software (Adobe or something) and/or god forbid Visual Studio 2026, and some other corporate software to ma…

Krita and Inkscape have successfully replaced Photoshop and Illustrator for me. There isn't any good video editing options and lightroom still beats Gimp. For me the biggest sticking point to windows is cad/cam software, lightburn and anything proprietary needed for hobby equipment. I'm glad though that 3d printer software has always had equal Linux support (as long as you don't use Bambu).

Davinci Resolve for video editing. It's what I'd use on Windows, as well.

Lightroom vs Gimp does not make sense, should be Gimp vs Photoshop if anything.

For photos you can use digikam + darktable/rawtherapee.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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I think you are thinking about it way too hard. Windows 11 is a dog. Constant hardware problems, slow, and frustrating UX. Is any desktop linux perfect? No, but its better than w11 right now.

> Windows 11 is a dog. So, man's best friend? Anyway, while I agree about the slowness (now that I've experienced Linux snappiness and done the benchmarks), it's the constant nagging / dark patterns that seals the deal for me. Microsoft would still have me as a happy customer and MSVC user if they hadn't bricked their OS after Win 7 and shoved AI, MS account, ads etc down everyone's throats. On that note, even more h…

>> Windows 11 is a dog. >So, man's best friend?

Exactly: it's like that pit bull that everything thinks is so cute, until one day it goes berzerk and rips your child's face off, and then its owners say "It's your kid's fault for looking at him wrong!"

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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I have been running desktop Linux for a very long time, but I actually agree. There's a lot of rough edges. I do think a lot of these problems do go away if you are a bit proactive in choosing compatible hardware. I bought my mother in law a laptop for Christmas, and I put Linux Mint on there [1]. There were no issues getting it working on Mint with Cinnamon, but that's in no small part because I double checked all t…

How do you check the hardware is compatible in practice? Is there some reliable resource for doing this?

I've found generally that business-grade hardware has better Linux support. So for laptops, for instance, Lenovo Thinkpad and Dell Latitude laptops work better than some bargain-basement consumer-grade laptop.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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As a long time Linux user I started with Red Hat 7.2. Then moved on to Slackware from there to Ububtu and finally to ArchLinux. While Linux and the user space ecosystem has come a long way there are still plenty of sharp edges and anyone planning to use Linux long term must be able to figure some issues that will inevitably happen sooner or later when some update/system upgrade happens. Even though I consider myself…

Windows has its own sharp edges, such as the crashes the author of this article experienced. It's hard to evaluate fairly. This author, for example is fed up with specific issues on Windows and new to Linux. He is likely be more forgiving of sharp edges on Linux, recognizing that it's normal for something unfamiliar to be more challenging. On the other hand, someone content with Windows might think of its sharp edges…

Yep. It's sad that the best experience happens by being least worst and by detoriarating slower than the competition.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Not everything that runs on windows is proprietary I use a lot of open source software on Windows myself. Windows is also a lot easier to configure to run exactly the way I wanted to run and to be the OS I need it to be. It's extremely customizable and easy to control. It's also modifiable in many many more ways.

You are using subjective claims to back an objective assertion… Windows is strictly quite a bit less configurable than Linux. You likely just know Windows better?

>Windows is strictly quite a bit less configurable than Linux.

I wish I could agree, but I just can't: the OP may be correct, depending on which Linux desktop environment he's talking about.

*My* Linux is indeed much more configurable than Windows, but I'm using KDE. However, that's only promoted by a few distros like openSUSE. Most users are going to get GNOME shoved in their faces whether they like it or not, and no, GNOME is *NOT* more configurable than Windows. GNOME needs to be used exactly as the GNOME devs want you to use it, because otherwise it'll just break on the next update. For many users who are not Linux experts, and perhaps use Linux at work where their IT departments only allow them to use GNOME, they think GNOME==Linux because that's what most distros push so strongly, so I can see why OP would make such a claim.

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