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Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by goatlover »

SirHumphrey wrote: post #402
vanviegen wrote: post #348

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> but they seemed to disagree with the most harmful Trump policies as well. I imagine Republicans such as this still populate a majority of the house and Senate. If they disagree, they are sure making an effort to do so silently.

The amount of things Trump did circumventing Congressional approval might suggest that he does not a clean pass even though Republicans have majority in both the house and the senate.

That's on Congress for allowing Trump to repeatedly circumvent their approval.

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Post by HaZeust »

ryukoposting wrote: post #709
beasthacker wrote: post #521

The U.S. federal government is bad at redactions on purpose. The offices responsible for redactions are usually in-house legal shops (e.g., an Office of Chief Counsel inside an agency like CBP) and the agency’s FOIA office. They’re often doing redactions manually in Adobe, which is slow, tedious, and error-prone. Because the process is error prone, the federal government gets multiple layers of review, justified (as…

Please refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor No, there isn't an enormous cohort of bureaucrats going to work every day, collectively wringing their hands and saying "haha, we're going to be STUPID today!"

You ought to re-read GP. They aren't saying there's a decision to be stupid, but that it's a byproduct of their process.

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Post by rayiner »

exasperaited wrote: post #759
rayiner wrote: post #750

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Iran-Contra is a perfect example. How did that advance conservative principles? Whether Nicaragua is communist doesn’t affect anyone in America. Precisely because it has no consequences domestically, you won’t get disinvited from Georgetown parties for trying to overthrow Latin American governments. In fact, there’s an upside for liberals in such policies. The resulting chaos facilitated mass migration and cultural t…

This is… an insane argument. But just the idea that Bill Barr gives a shit what liberals think makes me laugh.

DC is full of trad cons who are sensitive to what liberals think. More specifically, the type of liberal that dominates the professional class in DC—folks who will happily represent Phillip Morris but consider immigration and affirmative action to be moral imperatives.

It’s just the math of the city. The DOJ is more democrat-leaning than most college campuses: https://admin.govexec.com/media/general/2024/11/110124donati.... Trump got three times the level of support in AOC’s district than his share of donations from DOJ employees.

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Post by stingraycharles »

DerArzt wrote: post #504
sallveburrpi wrote: post #494

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To me this is the only explanation that makes sense. However wouldn’t they risk repercussions when this is inevitably found out? I assume they have records who redacted which documents

Some peopledo things acknowledging that there may be backlash for an action when they feel it's the right thing to do.

Snowden being an extreme example, I feel really sorry for what happened to him but he really did the right thing.

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Post by pfannkuchen »

reed1234 wrote: post #283
pfannkuchen wrote: post #245

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Right, I’m aware of the excuses the government uses to keep secrets. But on principle, what right does the government have to keep secrets from its own people? I don’t believe we had that button at the founding, it was added somewhere along the way. I’m asking what is the justification for this, and whether in the grand scheme of things that outweighs the principle of the government not being a separate entity from t…

Should the military publish plans before the battle? Should witness protection programs be public record?

Is there an enemy invader actively performing military operations inside the country? In that case, I believe it’s typical for a nation to suspend its normal procedures, we don’t need our principle to hold in case of active invasion.

Otherwise, just don’t do war. It’s pretty simple. Especially when you have zero need for land.

Witness protection is a compensation for an inadequate and overly soft criminal justice system. If the person calling the hit fully expected to die by hanging for calling the hit, he would not call the hit.

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Post by almosthere »

jm4 wrote: post #721
rkagerer wrote: post #537

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Never trust a lawyer with a redact tool any more complicated than a marker. I've seen lawyers at major, high-priced law firms make this same mistake. Once it was a huge list of individuals names and bank account balances. Fortunately I was able to intervene just before the uploaded documents were made public. Folks around here blame incompetence, but I say the frequency of this kind of cock-up is crystal clear teleme…

It often comes down to not using the right software and training issues. They have to use Acrobat, which has a redaction tool. This is expensive so some places cheap out on other tools that don’t have a real redaction feature. They highlight with black and think it does the same thing whereas the redaction tool completely removes the content and any associated metadata from the document. This was basically the only r…

I feel like the number of incidents related to "fully public S3 buckets" has gone down after AWS made it nearly impossible to miss the notice.
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