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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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It's real code.

Well that proves it!

The archetype of "Coding Machine" for senior staff engineers at FB was created because of this guy: https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/the-coding-machin...

I have one of these types on my team and the level of productivity is shocking.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Moderation on Reddit has been questionable for a long time and its killing the site. To give some examples: - /r/energy used to ban everyone in favour of nuclear energy - If you post on /r/conservative you can expect to receive a bunch of bans from unrelated (popular) subs. Doesn't matter what you posted, being associated with that subs "taints" your account enough for some moderators. - /r/UnitedKingdom banned me fo…

I got permanently banned from Reddit for participating in a thread debating the death penalty. In which I wrote one comment suggesting we shouldn’t waste a bunch of court costs on mass shooters who are blatantly guilty. That was considered “instigating violence” lol

Depending on how you wrote or worded it, that IS instigating violence.

"We should just execute them and save money" is instigating violence.

If you aren't willing to spend resources because it's "obvious" to you, you do not care about Justice.

Cops always think they got the right guy, and they are regularly blatantly wrong, including for people on death row.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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You're not a conservative. Why are you so concerned about participation criteria for the conservative subreddit, one of the only distinctly right wing places on the whole platform?

Part of the problem is the mods' narrow definition of "conservative". And this is the larger point of this entire comment thread. There are plenty of people with traditional conservative values who are not welcome in r/conservative. Not to mention, over time the tent has been shrinking as well. Which, to be fair, is not unlike how the GOP has been operating over the last few years.

These examples are brilliant illustrations of an internet endgame for symbols, representations, metaphors. In other words, "the internet: where primate communication came to die."

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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This is oddly a case to signify there is value in an AI moderation tools - to avoid bias inherent to human actors.

Getting rid of bias in LLM training is a major research problem and anecdotally e.g., to my surprise, Gemini infers gender of the user depending on the prompt/what the question is about; by extension it’ll have many other assumptions about race, nationality, political views, etc.

> to my surprise, Gemini infers gender of the user depending on the prompt/what the question is about

What, automatically (and not, say, in response to a "what do you suppose my gender is" prompt)? What evidence do we have for this?

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I'm going to focus on the MODERATION ACCUSATION first since that seems to be the main issue. What moderating r/codingbootcamp actually looks like: I don't own the sub - I report to the owner who asked me to help after I'd been one of the most active and helpful contributors. The coding bootcamp industry is absolutely infested with astroturfing. Brand new accounts, manufactured conversations, fake testimonials. It's c…

These accusations could all have been avoided by not moderating a community in which you stand to have a direct reputational gain. You inserted yourself in to this situation. There is an easy path out of it.

One thing I learned from lawyers is that not only impropriety should be avoided, the appearance of impropriety should also be avoided.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I was banned from /r/comics for saying a comic wasn't funny. Hacker news doesn't ban anyone for such stupid reasons.

I was banned from /r/sourdough for asking a question about rye flour, because someone dug into my post history and saw that I had posted a few times on the Catholicism subreddit. Someone's first instinct when reading a completely benign, neutral question was to see if I was on this or that "team".

I have a lot of Catholic family, is there some connection between Catholicism and sourdough that I'm unaware of?

As someone whose family comes from the more left wing Catholic culture, which is a thing, I sometimes am disappointed when Catholics are thoughtlessly lumped into right wing culture war topics. It feels like this assumption is particularly common in the US vs. other places.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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It sounds like a large part of the problem is how important a subreddit name is to popularity. If a subreddit has a good obvious name it is going to collect members and activity even if the mods are awful. Competing subreddits will struggle to attract new users as they need some different less-obvious name. I wonder if this could be approached in a way that new subreddits didn't have this disadvantage so that they co…

That's an interesting idea! Perhaps intentionally using uuids in the URL instead of slugs and improving the recommendation/search algo (e.g take into account the average post length or cited sources in the ranking) would solve this issue. Main challenge might still be that its very hard to move an existing user base if the moderator(s) blocks all posts about other communities. Perhaps a more democratic moderation sys…

Yeah but then you can't easily visit specific subs. When I was younger and didn't have an account, I would just go to the url to view my favorite subs, and uuid's would make it less intuitive.

One other option sites like scored.co do is they allow subs to use their own url (like their Trump sub is called patriots.win). The site admins have kind of given up on the site though so I'm not sure if you can still do it, but it seemed like a clever idea.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one. They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c... Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else…

Moderation on Reddit has been questionable for a long time and its killing the site. To give some examples: - /r/energy used to ban everyone in favour of nuclear energy - If you post on /r/conservative you can expect to receive a bunch of bans from unrelated (popular) subs. Doesn't matter what you posted, being associated with that subs "taints" your account enough for some moderators. - /r/UnitedKingdom banned me fo…

I was banned from /r/askaconservative for stating a very mainstream position. Mods told me I was "astroturfing".

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It goes both ways. If you try to post anything remotely criticizing Donald Trump or his government on /r/conservative you'll also get banned. Even if you try to keep it objective.

You already suspect this, but your expectations are out of line with the actual game/meta game/propaganda model there. You as a person who uses reddit have a general agreement most likely with the concept of reddiquette, and perhaps go to engage with diverse views, maybe to learn something, maybe to just have an argument. Normal internet forum stuff. However, you are arguing with a vertically integrated propaganda ma…

This is spot-on. It's an example of the endgame of human communication, the ultimate function of arbitrary signals is to refute themselves.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one. They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c... Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else…

>They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform Funny how for the last 30 years of right wing violence/extremists far exceeding left wing nothing was done at all about it, no questions asked. Hush hush, don't talk about gun control or the real causes of these peoples' actions. But then the year that left wing violence…

>But then the year that left wing violence finally exceeds right wing

It hasn't even! Like even if you take the Kirk murder as an explicitly left wing murder, "leftist" violence is still not even a shadow of what it used to be in the US

We used to shoot at business magnates for fighting unionization! The weather underground was an explicitly Marxist organization! The black panthers were a black supremacist organization!

Your own source makes the point that the reason left wing attacks "outnumber" right wing ones is that right wing attacks have dramatically decreased

Because when ICE does it, it's not considered a "right wing attack"!

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