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Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by physarum_salad »

robotresearcher wrote: post #492
ghusto wrote: post #340

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Was reading through your post, finding it difficult to find fault with anything you were saying, but something wasn't sitting right. And then ... > I'm certain it's worked well in other countries It has! In the Netherlands for example, it's just an incredibly convenient system, and if there's anything dodgy going on I'm not aware of it. So what makes the UK so different to the Netherlands? Genuine question, because I…

Mandatory ID cards are a cultural no-no in the UK. They were required during WW2, then discontinued in peacetime. People burned them in the street. You are not required to show ID to a police officer. Even when driving you don’t need to show a license on the spot, though if stopped for cause you have to present it at a police station within three days. At least those were the rules when I was a young driver there. Th…

Yes, and this cultural attitude really goes way back, like since pre-1500s for England. Then throw Scotland and N.I. into the mix and there is absolutely no interest in this type of system...to put it mildly!

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by foldr »

logicchains wrote: post #716
octo888 wrote: post #690

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In the UK, if this comment could be traced to your ID/address, you'd be arrested likely on terrorism charges.

Not if I was a Labor supporter: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/aug/15/suspended-l...

He was acquitted by a jury. Do you think Keir Starmer is bribing juries when the defendant is a Labour supporter or something? I'm sorry if that sounds flippant, but what exactly is your assumption about the underlying mechanism here? If there were some sort of Labour cabal controlling the justice system then this person would never have been arrested and tried in the first place.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by physarum_salad »

KoolKat23 wrote: post #760
physarum_salad wrote: post #758

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Huh? Everyone carries their phone everywhere and an ID card on an app is carried everywhere. When you stay at a hotel you might have to produce it, go to a doctors appointment,... and so on

Huh? In countries like Italy it's actually mandatory to have a form of identification on you when in public, this isn't the case.

The "brit_card" is on your phone and you will carry it everywhere. It is also a walking surveillance beacon and hacking target.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by didntknowyou »

aftergibson wrote: post #189

A secure, optional digital ID could be useful. But not in today’s UK. Why? Because the state has already shown it can’t be trusted with our data. - Snoopers’ Charter (Investigatory Powers Act 2016): ISPs must keep a year’s worth of records of which websites you visit. More than 40 agencies—from MI5 to the Welsh Ambulance Service—can request it. MI5 has already broken the rules and kept data it shouldn’t have. - Encry…

more concerning is they will be contracting the project to a private company, with links to the previous PM

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by hollerith »

robotresearcher wrote: post #492
ghusto wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was reading through your post, finding it difficult to find fault with anything you were saying, but something wasn't sitting right. And then ... > I'm certain it's worked well in other countries It has! In the Netherlands for example, it's just an incredibly convenient system, and if there's anything dodgy going on I'm not aware of it. So what makes the UK so different to the Netherlands? Genuine question, because I…

Mandatory ID cards are a cultural no-no in the UK. They were required during WW2, then discontinued in peacetime. People burned them in the street. You are not required to show ID to a police officer. Even when driving you don’t need to show a license on the spot, though if stopped for cause you have to present it at a police station within three days. At least those were the rules when I was a young driver there. Th…

You assert that the US does not allow dual citizenship, but that is wrong:

>U.S. law does not require a U.S. citizen to choose between U.S. citizenship and another (foreign) nationality (or nationalities). A U.S. citizen may naturalize in a foreign state without any risk to their U.S. citizenship.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by motbus3 »

rglynn wrote: post #753
Arch-TK wrote: post #634

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The NHS may lack funding, or it may not. But what is certain is that if you know how the NHS operates internally, or you know someone who does, then it's extremely evident that the NHS is severely mismanaged by administrators who definitely are not underfunded. I think saying "the NHS is underfunded" all day is just ignoring the other major issue: even when the NHS has funds, they squander most of them. I don't think…

Not to mention if you have suddenly have 1 million more people a year, many of whom are not in good health, you will suddenly have a lot more demand on that already broken and under-funded system.

Where do you assume they are not in good health? Or many of them are not in good health? Most of them are university students or economic active people as far as I know.

Cutting those places will put UK in even a worse place then after Brexit.

For sure there are sick people. Over any population there is a sample which is sick, but how much is it according to you or your sources?

I don't think, nor I have proof, but seems logical, that there will be many more healthcare workers than sick people.

The real mess is not about immigrants, I cannot blame them for the lack of investiment, training and planning over 20 years or more. If anything, I am grateful that if I go to a hospital they can admit me because there is AT LEAST enough people. It seem lack of character to change policies after asking people to come.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by hardlianotion »

squidbeak wrote: post #720
hardlianotion wrote: post #686

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How do you know that?

There's a full section of the government website dedicated to this subject, and also a recent act of parliament which in part prepared legislation for it, the Data Use and Access Act 2025 [1]. See my other answer in this thread for the links. The Digital ID scheme isn't new. The only change is from it being optional to mandatory. [1] https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2025/18/enacted

Thanks for the link - I was aware the government was preparing voluntary ID. I meant the zero proof element specifically as this is the first time I have heard mention of it.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Post by freedomben »

logicchains wrote: post #718
freedomben wrote: post #511

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With no privacy though, how do you even talk about it with enough people to organize?

The same way people did before the internet? The American revolution didn't require E2E encrypted communication, nor did the French one.

No, but the government also didn't have the communication and organization ability either. Imagine if the British generals could have communicated in real-time with London, or had spy satellites that could watch the revolutionary troops in real time, or had the ability to fire missiles thousands of miles with extreme precision. There would absolutely be no USA if they had
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