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Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by sheepdestroyer »

jcelerier wrote: post #752
Aachen wrote: post #708

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your boss doesn't want you to browse the web, where some technical content is accompanied by an avatar that the author likes, they may not be suitable as boss, or at least not for positions where it's their job to look over your shoulder and make sure you're not watching series during work time. Seems like a weird employment place if they need to check that anyway

we have customers in our offices pretty much every day, I think "no anime girls on screens" is a fair request

I fail to see how this particular "anime girl" and the potential for clients seeing it, could make you think that's a fair request. That seems extremely ridiculous to me.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by Aachen »

jakogut wrote: post #719
Aachen wrote: post #701

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Huh? What false positives does Anubis produce? The article doesn't say and I constantly get the most difficult Google captchas, cloudflare block pages saying "having trouble?" (which is a link to submit a ticket that seems to land in /dev/null), IP blocks because user agent spoofing, errors "unsupported browser" when I don't do user agent spoofing... the only anti-bot thing that reliably works on all my clients is An…

I've had Anubis repeatedly fail to authorize me to access numerous open source projects, including the mesa3d gitlab, with a message looking something like "you failed". As a legitimate open source developer and contributor to buildroot, I've had no recourse besides trying other browsers, networks, and machines, and it's triggered on several combinations.

Interesting, I didn't even know it had such a failure mode. Thanks for the reply, I'll sadly have to update my opinion on this project since it's apparently not a pure "everyone is equal if they can Prove the Work" system as I thought :(

I'm curious how, though, since the submitted article doesn't mention that and demonstrates curl working (which is about as low as you can go on the browser emulation front), but no time to look into it atm. Maybe it's because of an option or module that the author didn't have enabled

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by abustamam »

pluc wrote: post #742

Can we talk about the "sexy anime girl" thing? Seems it's popular in geek/nerd/hacker circles and I for one don't get it. Browsing reddit anonymously you're flooded with near-pornographic fan-made renders of these things, I really don't get the appeal. Can someone enlighten me?

It's a good question. Anime (like many media, but especially anime) is known to have gratuitous fan service where girls/women of all ages are in revealing clothing for seemingly no reason except to just entice viewers.

The reasoning is that because they aren't real people, it's okay to draw and view images of anime, regardless of their age. And because geek/nerd circles tend not to socialize with real women, we get this over-proliferation of anime girls.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by josh-sematic »

andai wrote: post #743
wraptile wrote: post #689

I'm a scraper developer and Anubis would have worked 10 - 20 years ago, but now all broad scrapers run on a real headless browser with full cookie support and costs relatively nothing in compute. I'd be surprised if LLM bots would use anything else given the fact that they have all of this compute and engineers already available. That being said, one point is very correct here - by far the best effort to resist broad…

You can also generate custom solutions at scale with LLMs. So each user could get a different CAPTCHA.

At that point you’re probably spending more money blocking the scrapers than you would spend just letting them through.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by empath75 »

agwa wrote: post #315
johnklos wrote: post #244

This is a usually technical crowd, so I can't help but wonder if many people genuinely don't get it, or if they are just feigning a lack of understanding to be dismissive of Anubis. Sure, the people who make the AI scraper bots are going to figure out how to actually do the work. The point is that they hadn't, and this worked for quite a while. As the botmakers circumvent, new methods of proof-of-notbot will be made…

It sounds like you're saying that it's not the proof-of-work that's stopping AI scrapers, but the fact that Anubis imposes an unusual flow to load the site. If that's true Anubis should just remove the proof-of-work part, so legitimate human visitors don't have to stare at a loading screen for several seconds while their device wastes electricity.

I don't think anything will stop AI companies for long. They can do spot AI agentic checks of workflows that stop working for some reason and the AI can usually figure out what the problem is and then update the workflow to get around it.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by balamatom »

esperent wrote: post #621
balamatom wrote: post #606

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>I like to talk seriously about art, representation, and culture. What's wrong with that? It's no fun. For one, you pulled your original response out of your ass. That the mascot is not a "catgirl" as identified by OP, but a canine variant of the same concept, because the project is named after the Egyptian god, is both obvious and uninteresting. You added nothing to that. You're running around shouting "I get the jo…

> out of your ass If I wanted to be spoken to this way I'd make a reddit account.

Might try for one anyway.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by [deleted] »

drakythe wrote: post #746
tgv wrote: post #686

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That says something about the chosen picture, doesn't it? Probably that it's not well liked. It certainly isn't neutral, while the Cloudfare page is.

You know, you say that, and while I understand where you're coming from I was browsing the git repo when github had a slight error and I was greeted with an angry pink unicorn. If Github can be fun like that, Anubis can too, I think.

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by lbhdc »

josh-sematic wrote: post #764
andai wrote: post #743

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can also generate custom solutions at scale with LLMs. So each user could get a different CAPTCHA.

At that point you’re probably spending more money blocking the scrapers than you would spend just letting them through.

That seems like it would make bot blocking saas (like cloudflare or tollbit) more attractive because it could amortize that effort/cost across many clients.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by DanielHB »

wraptile wrote: post #689

I'm a scraper developer and Anubis would have worked 10 - 20 years ago, but now all broad scrapers run on a real headless browser with full cookie support and costs relatively nothing in compute. I'd be surprised if LLM bots would use anything else given the fact that they have all of this compute and engineers already available. That being said, one point is very correct here - by far the best effort to resist broad…

How do you bypass cloudflare? I do some light scrapping for some personal stuff, but I can't figure out how to bypass it. Like do you randomize IPs using several VPNs at the same time?

I usually just sit there on my phone pressing the "I am not a robot box" when it triggers.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

I always wondered about these anti bot precautions... as a firefox user, with ad blocking and 3rd party cookies disabled, i get the goddamn captcha or other random check (like this) on a bunch of pages now, every time i visit them...

Is it worth it? Millions of users wasting cpu and power for what? Saving a few cents on hosting? Just rate limit requests per second per IP and be done.

Sooner or later bots will be better at captchas than humans, what then? What's so bad with bots reading your blog? When bots evolve, what then? UK style, scan your ID card before you can visit?

The internet became a pain to use... back in the time, you opened the website and saw the content. Now you open it, get an antibot check, click, forward to the actual site, a cookie prompt, multiple clicks, then a headline + ads, scroll down a milimeter... do you want to subscribe to a newsletter? Why, i didn't even read the first sentence of the article yet... scroll down.. chat with AI bot popup... a bit further down login here to see full article...

Most of the modern web is unusable. I know I'm ranting, but this is just one of the pieces of a puzzle that makes basic browsing a pain these days.

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