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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by marcosdumay »

econnors wrote: post #548
bee_rider wrote: post #540

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I think “what is an interface” would trip me up actually, haha. My thought process was: Well, most of the code I use uses a Reverse Communication Interface. But, I think these are pretty old-school projects, maybe I should start by talking about the Object Oriented interface to the library that we recently did. Or maybe I can talk about the file IO based interface that I did, it was extremely cursed but kind of funny…

"Can you clarify what you mean by interface?" is the right answer

And then hope that you are talking to somebody from a minority of job interviewers that are actually reasonable or trained into answering.

As a matter of fact, yes, that's the best approach, but only because if you receive a question like the OP's, you've already lost and have to just take a blind bet.

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Post by glitchc »

achierius wrote: post #661
glitchc wrote: post #583

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Nah, that's only true because the US fought in accordance with the Geneva Convention. It could have easily turned the entire country to glass if it wanted to.

Would American soldiers do so? If you think they all would, you have no understanding of history.

After the firsr few years, most soldiers were either mad enough or terrified enough of IEDs that they would have willingly accepted alternative options.

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Post by lukan »

glitchc wrote: post #583
benreesman wrote: post #547

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The United States Military is the most terrifying institution of force in the history of the human race (history of the universe as far as we know). It achieves a level of training, discipline, organization, morale, combat effectiveness and general formidavlbility that makes the median Marine among the best soldiers on the planet anywhere, all backed by a logistical apparatus unrivaled by any conceivable combination…

Nah, that's only true because the US fought in accordance with the Geneva Convention. It could have easily turned the entire country to glass if it wanted to.

Yes, you could have nuked the whole of Afghanistan. But for what gain?

(And what loss)

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Post by mh- »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #747
Aeolun wrote: post #724

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I mean, _I_ am not interviewing right now. But I can imagine Mr. useless that doesn’t know shot is.

I'm interviewing. I'm just not getting answers back. I have 9 YOE now so I've done the usual gauntlet hundreds of times by now. Paet of it is that a lot of places just aren't hiring to begin with. So I guess I shouldn't be surprised that those who remain either have poor processes (maybe some by design) or don't know how to find what they are looking for.

> I have 9 YOE now so I've done the usual gauntlet hundreds of times by now.

I'm not sure how to parse this.. you've done hundreds of interviews, as the candidate, in 9 years of experience?

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Post by nullorempty »

SoftTalker wrote: post #485

> Still, stretched-thin HR teams say it’s the only way to handle thousands of applicants. You're doing it wrong if you're considering "thousands" of applicants. First of all ask your current good employees if they can refer anyone. If you need to go to resumes, sort by qualifications. Screen out obvious robo-applications, you know them when you see them just like you know spam email from the subject line alone. Hint:…

I love this response.

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Post by nijave »

geraldwhen wrote: post #646
bobro wrote: post #301

> It does 100 interviews, and it’s going to hand back the best 10 to the hiring manager, and then the human takes over,” he says. Yikes. One thing that's incredibly important about reaching the interview-stage of a job application has been that there is a parity, or even an imbalance favoring the candidate, in human time usage. The company's people (often multiple people at once) have to spend time with the candidate…

How do you square that against receiving, literally, 500 fake resumes, mostly from Indians, on day one? They all match the job posting. You can’t filter by name because that’s discrimination. I suspect AI is being used to eliminate the fraud, this exact scenario. AI can’t, yet, be accused of breaking equal opportunity employment laws.

Well, I suppose same way you reduce spam and abuse anywhere else.

Raise the cost enough it's not worth it. Some middle ground could be requiring mailed in applications. That's a marginal cost for a real applicant but a higher cost for someone trying to send swathes of applications out.

It might seem backwards but there are plenty of solid non technical solutions to problems.

You could also do automated reputation checks where a system vets a candidate based on personal information to determine if they are real but doesn't reveal this information in the interview process.

That's how all government things tend to work (identity verification)

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Post by [deleted] »

sgerenser wrote: post #760
PenguinCoder wrote: post #464

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Was it Canonical?

I didn’t think Canonical did IQ tests, they just wanted you to report your high school GPA and class rank, and list all the clubs, activities, and awards and great things you did in high school and college. Even if you’ve been in industry for 20+ years.

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Post by nijave »

rcxdude wrote: post #634
DavidWoof wrote: post #202

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Give me an AI chatbot over someone with poor English skills reading a script any day of the week. My problem probably isn't unique, it's probably something fairly obvious that was vague in the instructions. Now, the important thing is offer a way to upgrade to a human. But I have no problem at all starting with AI, in fact I honestly prefer it.

That doesn't really match my experience. Usually if my problem is not unique it's already documented somewhere and I've solved it that way (And support generally puts some effort into documenting the non-unique problems to reduce their workload). If I'm calling support, it's because I've exhausted all other options and I've either concluded I need them to do something I can't do with an online form or the information…

It's hit or miss. Sometimes screaming "give me a compotent human" at a chatbot is quicker than pleading with tier 1. Sometimes it's not

At least there's no hold time

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Post by brailsafe »

eulers_secret wrote: post #589
siva7 wrote: post #114

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Somehow i would rather stay homeless or prostitute myself than throwing my dignity away by letting an a.i. assess me over the whole job interview. Yet this is where we are heading. Being graded by openai (and co). Iris scanned by openai. Who knows what comes next..

Wild take lol, I was recently unemployed and once I started facing the very real possibility that I'd have to go work at the local sawmill (or UPS) for $20/hr I was willing to do almost any humiliation ritual these companies wanted... and be happy I at least had a shot instead of being ghosted again. I support the fight against this kind of thing, but I also think it's entirely hopeless: They have all the power in th…

> Wild take lol, I was recently unemployed and once I started facing the very real possibility that I'd have to go work at the local sawmill (or UPS) for $20/hr I was

My hot take is that if you're an unemployed software dev now, it could last over a year easily, and it's way better to spend that time actually working at the sawmill or UPS if you're lucky enough to get those jobs. Work on your skills and selectively apply in your off hours, spend conservatively, reduce expenses as much as possible. At the very least, it'll remind you to be humble.

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