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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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You run a company in LA. Your visa is revoked. You show up at a different border shortly after with a novel job offer. Is it a genuine job offer or are you going back to run your company?

If that is all the evidence presented, then under the wild new concept of “innocent until proven guilty,” yes it is.

That's never been the standard at the border.

The starting assumption when crossing any[0] international border is that you don't have a right to enter the country, until you prove otherwise.

People from wealthy Western countries are generally used to just waving their passports and passing through, but that is not nor has it ever been some kind of automatic right. People are questioned and denied entry all the time, should they fail to satisfy the border official of their eligibility for entry under the exact terms of their visa (or the relevant visa waiver program).

I'm very sympathetic to the idea that border officials should have less discretion to deny people entry without very solid reasons, but if you start talking about 'innocent until proven guilty' at a border today, you're not going to have a good time.

[0] International agreements can of course modify this default assumption, e.g. Schengen.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I don't get the " tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights" and a foil blanket thing though. Why be so nasty? If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down? I'm curious as a non American why no one stops this. I mean presumably both political parties have not bothered. Do people in the US think it's ok? I think if that stuff hap…

Simple. It doesn't cause (genuine) outrage and it doesn't get them shut down. AOC for example, protested these private prisons during Trump's first term and went silent on them when Biden didn't close them.

Here is a tweet from soon after Biden took office in January 2021:

> People must understand the depth of what’s happening here: the President of the United States has ordered a halt to deportations. ICE, a federal agency, is refusing to comply.

> There’s no reforming this rogue dept. It’s time for a new, just vision.

https://x.com/AOC/status/1354211627940384768

A month later she was criticizing DHS for still having Patriot act powers, and lumped ICE with the same criticism:

> People have been writing about the deeply concerning issues with the structure of DHS for a long time.

> This is from 3 years before I was even elected.

> It’s not “fringe” to ask why FEMA & ICE are in the same Dept operation. Or question ICE’s operations

https://x.com/AOC/status/1364619004921413633

A day earlier she called for the abolition of ICE:

> It’s only 2 mos into this admin & our fraught, unjust immigration system will not transform in that time.

> That’s why bold reimagination is so impt.

> DHS shouldn’t exist, agencies should be reorganized, ICE gotta go, ban for-profit detention, create climate refugee status & more.

This one is very apt given OP.

https://x.com/AOC/status/1364349732760518657

She continued, this on is in April 2021:

> A lot of people who are just now suddenly horrified at the dehumanizing conditions at our border are the same folks who dehumanize immigrants + helped build these cages in the 1st place.

> When we tried to stop this infrastructure over a year ago,we were overruled by BOTH parties.

> Fact is a lot of the politicians crying right now don’t work to solve either.

> They vote to grow ICE + CBP cages and they do everything to avoid addressing the root: US foreign policy and interventionism that destabilizes regions, the climate crisis, and unjust economic policy.

https://x.com/AOC/status/1377652851191787532

Your statement that Alexandria Ocasia-Cortez stopped protesting these private prisons while Biden was in office is simply factually wrong. And it was not hard to check it.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> constitutional rights apply to all people Not within 100 miles of the border unfortunately. https://www.aclu.org/documents/constitution-100-mile-border-...

I'm waiting for 'jcranmer to respond to this, because it was a response to this claim years ago that started me following him, but, no: the "100 miles from the border constitution-free zone" thing is a myth.

I wasn't planning on responding to this, because the sibling comment already points out that the ACLU's own explainer page is walking back its original description of it as the "Constitution-free zone".

Although while I'm here, I will note that they still don't discuss the fact that--as far as I can tell--all the regulations and laws means the 100 miles start not from the water's edge, but from the international boundary, which is 12 miles out to sea. And which also means Chicago is not in the 100 mile border zone, since the actual Canadian border is on the side of Michigan, well over 100 miles away.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I'm waiting for 'jcranmer to respond to this, because it was a response to this claim years ago that started me following him, but, no: the "100 miles from the border constitution-free zone" thing is a myth.

I wasn't planning on responding to this, because the sibling comment already points out that the ACLU's own explainer page is walking back its original description of it as the "Constitution-free zone". Although while I'm here, I will note that they still don't discuss the fact that--as far as I can tell--all the regulations and laws means the 100 miles start not from the water's edge, but from the international boun…

That's what I remember about your comment! The extreme maritime border nerdery.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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I traveled to the US (from my country -France- and many others) for 12 years. About a trip every month. The last time was 10 years ago. I never had any problems (outside the horrible behaviour of border officers who show you that you are not welcome). I was stopped once by a policeman when I did an illegal car maneuver (which is tolerated in France), and when he realized I was a tourist with family, he just said, "Be…

The U.S. is great. It's probably not apparent from Europe how crazy the situation got in the U.S. The number of illegal border crossings on the EU in 2023 was about 380,000: https://www.statista.com/statistics/454775/number-of-illegal.... The last few years, we have been having 150,000-300,000 per month: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jp4xqx2z3o. And the EU has a much bigger population (330 million versus 450 million).

In 2017, Pew estimated that the EU had peaked around 5 million illegal immigrants: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2019/11/13/europes-unauth....

IN 2018, a Yale study estimated the U.S. had around 22 million illegal immigrants: https://insights.som.yale.edu/insights/yale-study-finds-twic....

France during the same period was estimated to have 300-400k illegal immigrants: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/11/13/four-co....

We have 10 times as many illegal immigrants per capita as France does.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Yeah you don’t get to use the claim of “virtue signaling” to shut down conversation any more, we all understand that is a manipulative play to make someone feel a chump for having standards. Your claims on immigrants don’t match stats, they are less violent than the American population at large. And your example wasn’t that, it was about trans rights. Why would you be singularly opposed to recognizing someone’s basic…

> they are less violent than the American population at large. I made no assertion about the criminality of the immigrants, but rather the cartels bringing them here. Regarding "trans rights", which is quite a large umbrella of ideas, negatively impacted parties include: 1. Parents who don't want schools influencing their children's ideas about sexual identity. 2. Women who don't want to compete against biological me…

Yes I see a general lack of common decency lately. And scapegoating. And fear mongering. Because a lot of people hold a view doesn't make it right.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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>I was taken to the nurse’s office for a medical check. She asked what had happened to me. She had never seen a Canadian there before. When I told her my story, she grabbed my hand and said: “Do you believe in God?” >“I believe God brought you here for a reason,” she said. “I know it feels like your life is in a million pieces, but you will be OK. Through this, I think you are going to find a way to help others.” You…

America has always been a theocracy under a veneer of democracy. She's lucky she didn't get renamed to Offred.

>America has always been a theocracy under a veneer of democracy.

Describes every govt out there.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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It is you that actually has to answer on which rules were broken and which countries do the same . Tbf asking questions to be answered by non-examples is disingenuous. If your argument (2) is that others do it, then you should provide concrete examples similar to the original article. If your argument (1) is that they did not follow some rules, you should either provide specific rules that the author did not follow,…

She tried to enter the country illegally and illegally apply for a work visa. 1) She co-founded a hemp drink company in California as a Canadian. "Jasmine Mooney, an actor who is also co-founder of the beverage brand Holy! Water, was detained on 3 March in San Diego, California." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-act... 2) She applied for a TN visa that was sponsored by her own company, which i…

TN self sponsorship is not allowed. However, it's not immediately clear to me that she would meet the standard of self-sponsorship as laid out in the law:

>> A professional will be deemed to be self-employed if he or she will be rendering services to a corporation or entity of which the professional is the sole or controlling shareholder or owner. [0]

I did quite a bit of digging to see if I could find corporate entity filings that might indicate if she is a sole or controlling shareholder. My initial findings suggest that she's not, but with low confidence.

Her product's site lists a mailing address in Illinois. I noticed the first line was "My Crew Doses"[1] (side note: lol - I guess this is a pun and a double entendre for "microdoses" but also "my friends dose"). I checked the Illinois register of corporations for that entity but came up short. I noticed the email listed on the contact page was "jeremy@enjoyholywater" and searched for 'Jeremy Holy Water' and came up with this guy [2] who lists himself as "Chief Scientific Officer" and a Co-founder of Holy! Water. I noticed he's in Colorado and checked the Colorado corporate register and bingo, came up with this: The corporate entity for My Crew Doses[3]. Not much info there but it lists the home registration of the entity as Wyoming. Going to the Wyoming register, we find the listing: [4]. That lists "Brian Mccaslin" as the sole corporate officer (President) with an @enjoyholywater.com email address. Cross-referencing his LinkedIn, it seems to be this guy: [5]. He also seems to go by BJ.

Now, assuming that this is the corporate entity for Holy! Water, I find it highly doubtful that the subject of the article is a controlling shareholder. We don't know what the ownership breakdown is but the fact that she isn't even listed as a corporate officer or a director is to me a strong indication that she isn't a majority shareholder. My hunch is that she in fact would be eligible (or at least not disqualified under this rule) for a TN visa.

[0] https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2012-title8-vol1/pdf... [1]https://enjoyholywater.com/policies/contact-information [2] https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremywidmann/ [3] https://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityDetail.do?quit... [4] https://wyobiz.wyo.gov/business/FilingDetails.aspx?eFNum=035... [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjmccaslin/

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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She tried to enter the country illegally and illegally apply for a work visa. 1) She co-founded a hemp drink company in California as a Canadian. "Jasmine Mooney, an actor who is also co-founder of the beverage brand Holy! Water, was detained on 3 March in San Diego, California." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-act... 2) She applied for a TN visa that was sponsored by her own company, which i…

TN self sponsorship is not allowed. However, it's not immediately clear to me that she would meet the standard of self-sponsorship as laid out in the law: >> A professional will be deemed to be self-employed if he or she will be rendering services to a corporation or entity of which the professional is the sole or controlling shareholder or owner. [0] I did quite a bit of digging to see if I could find corporate enti…

TN visa requires a legitimate employer-employee relationship. If she is a co-founder of the company, which she has advertised herself as being, then the TN visa is illegal. Add on the fact she tried 3 times in various borders is more than enough evidence to detain her for immigration fraud.

Do I think it's right? No.

But is it lawful? 100% yes. I've seen draconian behavior at the border so I'm completely familiar with how things are so I'm not surprised.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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> People weren't supporting hamas, they were condemning the indiscriminate bombing of civilians. At least within my little bubble , I saw a lot more concern about that than the fact that Hamas had basically committed a massive war crime on October 7th. The only people consistently talking about the hostages that I saw were my Jewish friends. Otherwise, it was mainly "Free Palestine". It's worth remembering that they…

> they also mainly targeted civilians How many Palestinians, mostly civilians, were held hostage in Israeli prisons on October 6th? (Hint: over 5,000). > If you were to kill, rape, Are you referencing long debunked fabricated accounts [0]? Or do you have any actual evidence of rape? > and kidnap the proportional equivalent of any country's civilian population Again - over 5,000 Palestinians were being held hostage by…

> How many Palestinians, mostly civilians, were held hostage in Israeli prisons on October 6th? (Hint: over 5,000).

How many were there after trial?

> Are you referencing long debunked fabricated accounts [0]? Or do you have any actual evidence of rape?

Your own source indicates that there are UN investigators who found evidence of rape being carried out by Hamas terrorists.

> Again - over 5,000 Palestinians were being held hostage by Israel on October 6th, including 170 children [1]. That's a huge proportion of the population. That's what October 7th was about. That's why they did it - to free kidnapped Palestinians. So, if you were to apply your own logic equally, you would then have to justify what Hamas did on October 7th. You can compare any statistic you like - kidnappings, murders, torture, rape. Per capita, or absolute, Israel comes out worse every time.

Tell that to Jordan and Egypt. When the Israelis are offered a chance to sit down and hammer out a good-faith deal, they do so, and generally stick to its terms. It's almost as if they're going tit-for-tat with a group that is both willing to use shocking levels of violence to achieve their aims while also being far less able to counter any response using their own tactics.

> Most countries attack military targets. Not tens of thousands of children, or every hospital, or record numbers of journalists, and refugee camps. Because the numbers (real people) are unprecedented. Unprecedented.

Israeli war crimes should be punished. That being said, Hamas is the aggressor that decided to launch a military operation from one of the most densely populated territories on Earth. They also didn't seem to mind attacking civilian targets like a music festival or kibbutzim. If they had launched attacks on IDF bases, that's one thing. They didn't.

> Hamas offered to return the hostages on October 9/10 in exchange for Israeli troops not entering Gaza [2].

Think about that offer for a second. "We know we just killed over a thousand of your citizens - and fundamentally disagree with your state's very existence - but you can have the ones we kidnapped back, so long as you make no real attempt to find those responsible or prevent further attacks on your territory." Which brings me to my next point...

> Netanyahu has scuppered many deals since.

Of course he has. He doesn't have to take the deals Hamas (and by extension, Iran) wants. He's a bastard and is leaning too far towards authoritarianism to make me happy, but there was absolutely, positively no way that the attacks of October 7th were going to lead to anything but what you see going on now. Hamas is a militia. One backed by Iran, but still a militia. They lack the logistical, geographic and economic means to make any sort of sustained war against Israel, and they likely knew that before attacking.

When you're the leader of a country made up of a historically persecuted people and have been dealing with decades of attacks from an opponent, you're going to take advantage of their miscalculations to protect your people. Hamas made a massive miscalculation with October 7th. Netanyahu has been able to stick to power despite the violence of his response, and likely will until next year. Americans voting in the 2024 election, on the whole, didn't care if their government kept backing the Israelis. Iran's attempts to deliver reprisals generally failed to have any effect on Israel's ability to make war. The IDF operates in and around Gaza at will, able to destroy Hamas' token pockets of resistance. And since it's such a densely populated area, Palestinian civilians pay the price.

Furthermore, everyone who's anyone of consequence in the Middle East, save Iran, hates Hamas. There's a reason Egypt has stopped refugees at the border: they don't want a massively destabilizing force potentially entering their country. They're an existential threat to Egyptian society; Israel has shown it is not.

The only way to immediately prevent further civilian deaths in Gaza at this point is for Hamas to surrender, repatriate any hostages/remains, and disarm. Otherwise the Israelis will continue to push their advantage. You can't do what Hamas did on October 7th and run back behind the skirt of international law to stop your opponents; it simply doesn't work. You can screw up so much that it puts the survival of the entire population under your control at risk, and screw up is exactly what Hamas did by exercising the military option.

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