Internet random person (me) says more than 99% of Google's 25%+ code written by AI has already been written by humans.
Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
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#762Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sorry but I don't understand how people say LLMs are simply "tab completion". They allow me to do much more than that thanks to all the knowledge they contain. For instance, yesterday I wanted to write a tool that transfers any large file that is still being appended to to multiple remote hosts, with a fast throughput. By asking Claude for help I obtained exactly what I want in under two hours. I'm no C/C++ exper…
That's fine for your quick hack that is probably a reimplementation of an existing program you can't find. But it's not a production quality implementation of new need.
It's a knowledge base that can explain the knowledge it returns when you ask, how is that not useful in a professional environment for production code?
I mean if you assume all devs are script kiddies who simply copy paste what they find on google (or ChatGPT without asking for explanations) then yeah it's never gonna be useful in a prod setting.
Also you're very wrong to believe every technical need or combination of libraries has already been implemented in open source before.
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#763Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did not use copilot or cursor. I used the Claude interface. I'm planning to setup a proper editor tool such as Cursor as I believe they got much better lately. Last time I tried was 2023 and it was kind of a pain in the butt.
I tried Cursor this month but even though it is much better than copilot, it also tries to do too much. And both of them fail regularly at generating proper autocompletions, which makes Cursor a bigger annoyance because it messes up your code quite often, which copilot doesn't do. Cursor is too aggressive. But using copilot as a better autocomplete is really helpful and well worth the subscription. Just while typing…
good to know, thanks
Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
#764Puts on Google
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That sounds like a great idea, are you going to open source that?
I think I will, I don't have time to maintain additional software right for other people now but I'm definitely planning on open sourcing it when I get time
Yeah i see your point.
However i think that you might open source the thing with a disclaimer of no maintenance. Whoever is willing to maintain it can just fork it and move along.
Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
#766I understand CEOs need to promote their companies, but it's notable that Google - arguably the world's leading information technology company - fell behind in AI development under Pichai's leadership. Now he's touting Google's internal capabilities, yet Gemini is being outperformed by relative newcomers like Anthropic and OpenAI.
His position seems secure despite these missteps, which highlights an interesting double standard: there appears to be far more tolerance for strategic failures at the CEO level compared to the rigorous performance standards expected of engineering staff.
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#767Earlier quoted context omitted.
Next human will put the code in a prompt and ask what it does. Chinese Whispers.
I tried making a meme some months ago with exactly this idea, but for emails. One person would tell an LLM "answer that I'm fine with either option" and sends a 5 KB email, in response to which the recipient receives it and gets the automatic summary function to tell them (in a good case) "they're happy either way" or (in a bad case) "they don't give a damn". It didn't really work, too complex for meme format as far…
If someone is going to use an LLM to send me an email, I'd much rather them just send me the prompt directly. For the LLM message to be useful the prompt would have included all the context and details anyway, I don't need an LLM to make it longer and sound more "professional" or polite.
Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
#768that explains everything.
Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
#769I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…
A few years ago we called that IntelliSense, right? I remember many years ago as a Java developer, Netbeans could do such things as complete `psvm` to "public static void main() {...}", or if you had a field "private String name;" you could press some key combination and it would generate you the getter and setter, complete with javadoc which was mandatory at that place because apparently you need "Returns the name.\…
Yes, Copilot and other LLM coding tools are just a (much) better version of IntelliSense.
Re: Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
#770I work for Google, and I just got done with my work day. I was just writing I guess what you'd call "AI generated code." But the code completion engine is basically just good at finishing the lines I'm writing. If I'm writing "function getAc..." it's smart enough to complete to "function getActionHandler()", and maybe suggest the correct arguments and a decent jsdoc comment. So basically, it's a helpful productivity…
A few years ago we called that IntelliSense, right? I remember many years ago as a Java developer, Netbeans could do such things as complete `psvm` to "public static void main() {...}", or if you had a field "private String name;" you could press some key combination and it would generate you the getter and setter, complete with javadoc which was mandatory at that place because apparently you need "Returns the name.\…
Most jetbrains IDEs come with those snippets and if you’re using IDEA, the code will be 50%+ generated by the IDE.