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Post by dialup_sounds »

dolni wrote: post #585
mikeatlas wrote: post #534

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they offer free recycling of old hardware https://www.apple.com/shop/open/free_recycling when you buy new hw see also https://www.apple.com/me/recycling/

There is a reason that the old saying is "reduce, reuse, recycle". The effectiveness is in that order: reduce consumption, reuse what you have, and recycle what you can no longer use. There is a very straightforward opportunity here for Apple to enable "reuse". They absolutely should be doing that.

Can you name an example of an AIO (or laptop) usable as a display?

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

_chu1 wrote: post #515
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That's fine, but personal anecdotes are also a hugely misleading source of information too. In the time since the iMac redesign was released, I've seen 10x more of the old models than I have seen of the new ones. My local barber even uses an Intel iMac in Target Display mode to run their Windows small-form-factor PC. HN is disillusioned, but so are a lot of the west coast product designers that expect businesses to b…

When I think cheap and works out of the box, Mac is the last thing on my mind.

Apple ain’t cheap.

Windows 11 (literally) will not work out-of-the-box if you don’t have internet access.

Linux isn’t cheap unless your time is free.

I say we should just bring back IRIX.

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Post by kridsdale3 »

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I think it's extremely overestimated by the technical crowd how many people would ever upgrade their RAM or SSD in their Macbook. I honestly doubt it's even in the single digit percentage points. The energy, engineering and material wasted on having connectors probably vastly outweighs the environmental savings by having that one tech person upgrade their RAM or SSD,

I bought an M1 Max with a 2TB SSD, but I’m running up against the capacity and I want more storage. The computer is still plenty fast. Normally, I’d upgrade my computer and continue using it, but now I need to sell it and get a new one to get more storage. Not to mention the carbon cost of doing that, these things are $4000! Further, when I buy a new one, I’m now incentivized to over-provision it based on my current…

I have the same Mac and problem.

I used OWC parts to make a 16 TB m2 SSD array that connects over Thunderbolt. It's fast enough to edit 8K footage, just like the internal disk. Look for the 4-bay Thunderbolt enclosure on Amazon. I did add extra cooling (heatsinks on the modules, and a bigger fan).

Total cost was about $2000.

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Post by Schiendelman »

tomcam wrote: post #716
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> Apple is only "green" in their presentations - in reality they care more about inifite sales only. needs citation. I say this as someone who worked several years in engineering at Apple, and they were extremely environmentally conscientious years before it was a thing.

With respect, then, why do you think iPhone or iPad batteries can’t be replaced by the average user after a decade and a half?

Waterproofing. It really is that simple. The math would never work out trading that for easy replaceability. And every average user can get a shop to replace their battery.

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Post by ansonhoyt »

ttul wrote: post #134

Note: The 24” iMac is never going to be the platform of choice for HackerNews readers.

Pretty true, though I'm ordering one as a family computer. Pretty colors, tidy package and lack of portability make it perfect.

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Post by throwaway48476 »

jjcm wrote: post #630
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You've convinced me, but it really shows the limitations for 16:9 when these are our options. Two largish 28" 4:3 monitors would be a nice middle ground.

Consider the samsung 57" ultrawide. ‎7680x2160 resolution. Lots of usable space, but a better form factor for productivity than a TV. https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-DisplayPort-Mini-LED-DisplayH...

The ultra wide trend has been terrible. Most content creation tasks are vertical space limited. An ultra wide is just having two monitors without a bezel. It's a significant cost increase for little benefit. Ideally there would be a 10k that's 4x 1440p but 8K is an acceptable compromise.

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Post by j45 »

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Apple should hire a couple hackers to create “end-of-life” firmware for their obsolete devices; give them new life as super-specialized devices. Part green program, part customer delight, even some wacky art projects. Maybe if an iMac doesn’t have a video input—have it boot as an AirPlay-only monitor. I’ve got 2 old EOL appleTV boxes sitting in a drawer—again, one last firmware update to make them dedicated AirPlay r…

> "Apple should hire a couple hackers to create “end-of-life” firmware for their obsolete devices; give them new life as super-specialized devices." They've actually done this in a few cases! There's a whole generation of obsolete Airport Express Wifi base stations that got a final firmware update which gave them AirPlay 2 functionality. Now they're still quite sought after as a device to make old stereos/speakers wi…

Handy, I hope I have mine still!

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Post by throwaway48476 »

phillco wrote: post #458
jjcm wrote: post #448

Since this thread seems to be about niche asks for pro users, despite the product being targeted towards casual users who want an easy out of the box experience, I'll add my own to the mix. I'd love a bigger/better screen on these, specifically an ultrawide variety. An iMac Pro with an 8k ultrawide would be a near-instant purchase for me. I find the ultrawide form factor so good for productivity. I love the apple "it…

Incidentally, it was observed that the new iMac can support an external 8K 120Hz display: https://x.com/vadimyuryev/status/1850929080281321899

Not sure how that's possible. With 80gbit you can only do 8K 90hz. 120hz would need the 120gbit of the 3 lane alt mode of thunderbolt 5.
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