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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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No, because IDF soldiers are legitimate military targets in that context.

If the parties were reversed as described above, I think the Israelis and their allies in the US would unhesitatingly label it terrorism.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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The entire US is going to freak out if a platoon of KGB soldiers flew into US and killed hundreds of bad guys. How objectively bad the "victims" might have been isn't going to matter. You can't just walk across a recognized international border and do the "right" thing without a consent, regardless of how right or wrong it had been. That's an act of war, technically.

As far as I know in this case both sides have already attacked each other via bombs, airstrikes, rockets, etc. I'm not really making a judgement on whether this was ethical or justified. There's just a distinction to be made from intentionally killing civilians for the purpose of causing terror versus targeting a group that you are in an open military hostility with. The second one, as you say, is basically just war.…

the operation targets operatives of a terrorist organization, not civilians. they use it as secure communication over mobile phones to not be easily locatable. is that lost on you, that it’s targeting the communication used by combatants?

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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The only way we'd find out how they did it is if some pagers didn't explode and at least one would get into the hands of someone willing to do a public tear-down. In this video, we'll be cutting the explosive battery. Hit the like and subscribe buttons, and let us know what kind of explosive you think this is in the comments. Also, don't try this at home kids, we're what you'd call "professionals".

I vote for Bigclive doing the teardown. Or maybe AVE…

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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You are aware that Hezbollah routinely fires missiles into Israel (and Israel fires Artillery and drop bombs)? How would you call that? There is already a war, so far it just has been avoided to become an all out war.

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they should grow up and get rid of Iran‘s proxy waging war against civilian population from their territory and obviously also terrorizing the local population – they also built tunnels and invested hundreds of millions into terrorism infrastructure instead of investing into poor economy of Lebanon and make real jobs etc. etc.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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I'm genuinely curious: how is this not considered terrorism on Israel's part? (or is it considered terrorism?) From a tactical standpoint, this is very similar, and the only big difference I see is that this is technologically more advanced/more complex than just planting a bomb or something. If it's not terrorism, what is the differentiating factor(s)? *side note: I'm quite sure other western countries have used tac…

Indeed, it's against the Geneva Convention, and a 12 year old girl was hurt.

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No, because IDF soldiers are legitimate military targets in that context.

Correct, should they be on a military base without civilians.

Indiscriminately exploding devices, and accepting the certain civilian collateral damage?

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My conscience was pricked when they killed probably 40,000 people in Palestine, so this extra 3,000 casualties is just more deaths from a terrorist state.

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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The definition of terrorism is controversial and political, so there isn't a hard answer. But I think a general distinction is the targeting of combatants vs civilians. There is a difference between infiltrating military or para-military organizations or operations and intentionally targeting mass casualties of civilians for attention.

> But I think a general distinction is the targeting of combatants vs civilians When Afghans took up arms against occupying American soldiers, they were routinely called terrorists in American press and media. When Muslims fight America or Israel, they are called terrorists. When the situation is reversed, that label isn't applied.

You should read up about the difference between Muslims and Islamists and how bad the Islamists are for Islamic communities themselves.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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'U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. called for a "full accounting" of the attacks to Congress to determine "whether any US assistance went into the development or deployment of this technology."' Are there any public records indicating the CIA is capable of pulling off something like this? I wish the US had been involved, but I seriously doubt it, if only because the opsec requirements are so high. If anyone…

Why do you wish the US had been involved? Wouldn't it be better for us to stay clear of this?
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