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Post by anigbrowl »

this_user wrote: post #321
kjkjadksj wrote: post #246

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Well when you have over 100m in assets in your pile of gold in the dragon lair, its time to be extractive.

Nobody with assets over 100m has a "pile of gold", as you put it. Those assets are always productively invested in some form or another. But you would prefer that those investments be pulled, because the government are clearly much better at employing those assets productively?

Those assets are always productively invested in some form or another.

This is a rather large assumption. One's assets might be invested inefficiently, as those who financed Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter have learned to their cost.

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Post by Dibby053 »

Denzel wrote: post #672
object-a wrote: post #184

It's funny because Facebook's news feed in the last couple years is unusable, filled with AI slop and clickbait. Twitter similarly requires aggressive use of block + mute to eliminate scams, clickbait, and other content I'm not interested in. I don't know if this is due to their changes in moderation policy, or if AI has overwhelmed them, but I vastly preferred the old news feeds

What's hilarious is that my business account has been suspended by Facebook's automated fraud detection no less than 4 times in the past 5 months. Every time, they send a standard automated message saying some term was violated from a list of rules that's unavailable, and then ask me to upload a "selfie" to verify my business account. A selfie, to verify... my business account where I only add or post things to do wi…

Couldn't this be caused by a competitor spamming the report button rather than an automated alarm?

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Post by matchbok »

vuln wrote: post #743
calgarymicro wrote: post #738

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> after putting $450m into Biden's campaign in 2020 This is false; he donated to state and local election offices, not Biden's campaign.[0] [0] https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-mark-zuckerberg-ele...

The evidence shows that a disproportionate amount of funding went to urban areas in key swing states, which generally lean Democrat. Never saw a single ballot drop box out near a corn field. The money helped fund those sorts of initiatives.

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

djur wrote: post #683
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #465

OK, so Facebook at the request of the Biden Harris administration censored the Hunter laptop story and knew it was not actually Russian disinformation. It’s not like you could draw a straight line between this action and something you’d categorize as election interference.

There was no "Biden-Harris administration" in 2020.

There was. They just weren’t in office yet.

Yet, they still pressured Facebook to suppress truth and opinion they just didn’t like.

You can chose to not defend bad actions.

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Post by acdha »

tim333 wrote: post #670
giantrobot wrote: post #417

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> This time there was valid concern about issues like the lab leak theory being censored on social media You need to be very clear about what you mean by "lab leak theory" because that term has a number of definitions that are very different. There's the definition where COVID was the result of gain of function research that leaked from a lab through negligence. There's also a definition that it was an entirely natur…

You could just allow discussion without worrying too much which version.

What about things like not having algorithmic boosting for the tin-foil hat versions? Some people insist that’s censorship but it seems like a useful way to avoid promoting it to people who aren’t already seeking it out.

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Post by acdha »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #764
djur wrote: post #683

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was no "Biden-Harris administration" in 2020.

There was. They just weren’t in office yet. Yet, they still pressured Facebook to suppress truth and opinion they just didn’t like. You can chose to not defend bad actions.

You’re thinking of the FBI, who reported to Trump. The Biden campaign reported things like the non-consensual nudes which did not have any justification as a public interest story.

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Post by Slapping5552 »

rv3909i wrote: post #297
andy_ppp wrote: post #254

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As someone else has said just let them pay their taxes with stock, if that were the case I think it addresses most of your points right?

And if the asset is a farm?

Bill Gates come to mind as owning a crap load of farmland.

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Post by elpool2 »

Djdjur7373bb wrote: post #713
giantrobot wrote: post #417

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> This time there was valid concern about issues like the lab leak theory being censored on social media You need to be very clear about what you mean by "lab leak theory" because that term has a number of definitions that are very different. There's the definition where COVID was the result of gain of function research that leaked from a lab through negligence. There's also a definition that it was an entirely natur…

> You need to be very clear about what you mean by "lab leak theory" Why? Are you implying that it was okay to censor discussion of some versions and not others?

Sure, it’s ok for them to decide what kind of content they want on their own platform.

Edit: not ok for govt to coerce them into it though

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Post by jazzyjackson »

ianhawes wrote: post #744
jazzyjackson wrote: post #631

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Instagram is {in}famous for its bikini babes, a not insignificant fraction of which advertise their "availability" in various cities. How this has never come up in the various congressional hearings about protecting children mystifies me, reddit, twitter and instagram all have a culture of onboarding young women into sex work.

What exactly is there to protect children against? Instagram forbids nudity and regularly cracks down on it by banning accounts. I don't recall seeing any advertisements for prostitution on Instagram either. And of course, young women have been recruited into sex work long before social media or the internet.

You may not have experienced this but as soon as you're cute online you get direct messaged solicitations for photos, some offering hundreds of dollars for nudes. Once you've quit your job because your OnlyFans page took off you're stressed about keeping your numbers up so you start asking strangers to "collaborate" with to produce more content.

I know its progressive to consider sex work a perfectly good career choice but some of us still think its worth encouraging children to have some degree of modesty and keep sex a taboo topic to be explored with someone you trust.

And if you haven't noticed prostitution on instagram and twitter you just don't know the lingo, but basically city names + dates in the bio is a solicitation to DM for rates. "NYC 9/12-9/22, Miami 10/20-31", that kind of thing. Actually the one thing that impressed me about twitter is how much of a bubble this is, you don't stumble upon porn accounts in general, but once you follow a couple of accounts that promote sex work even politically (which I think people totally have the right to do, I do prefer the nordic model to whatever america is doing) you'll see hundreds of these.

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Post by akira2501 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #760
chrisco255 wrote: post #240

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Unrealized gains taxes is an extractive and totalitarian tax. Someone is always risking 100% loss until they realize those gains. It's an affront to entrepreneurial risk-taking and it's capricious. It would be just as ridiculous to allow someone to write-off unrealized losses.

OK, but in that case people shouldn't be allowed to put up securities they own as collateral for loans ( a popular kind of financial engineering among very wealthy people).

> shouldn't be allowed to put up securities they own as collateral for loan

Is that because the people making the loan aren't sophisticated enough to price those securities correctly in this context and so are being taken advantage of?

> a popular kind of financial engineering among very wealthy people

To use assets without a single universal price as collateral? I think everyone does this.

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