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> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life…

> tastefully integrating AI Tastefully integrating AI involves not uploading all of my photos and speech and text to the cloud and doing who knows what with that personal data. The majority of this data should never leave my device and that's why on-device LLMs/AI are much more tasteful.

You can control that.

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You don't need to put a case on phones. I've had an iPhone 11 since it came out, with no case, and quite a few drops onto hard floors. It's still fine. Obviously there's some luck involved but the only time I put a case on a (in that case, Samsung) phone it shattered the first time I dropped it. So, I figured I might as well go without again. I've yet to have an iPhone break from a fall, only from leaning up against…

You’re right that a case does little against big drops - with or without case, either you’re lucky and the phone survives or it doesn’t. Cases prevent scratches but, meh, I wouldn’t mind a few scratches on the back of my phone. However the main attraction of a case to me is: grip. My iPhone 15 Pro Max feels more slippery than a bar of soap. Unless I exert a lot of force, it just slips out of my hand while using it.

I'm a pretty greasy person and while obviously it's not as good as rubber I don't feel the same way about glass phones. They're obviously smooth but glass on skin is pretty grippy, overall.

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I'm an iPhone guy, but - there _are_ other designs for phones, right? The squircle corners, the shiny metal band surrounding the matte back, the aqua-pill-shaped buttons, the colors - Google is a $2T company, there's gotta be an industrial designer somewhere in the building or some process for phone design that doesn't take place in Cupertino, right?

That phone isn't a squircle, it is a rounded square. Those rounded edges seem to be inspired by google material design. Also phones have converged to the metal band, glass back before the iphone did it. Mobile phones are a mature technology and their designs have converged to the designs people are buying.

I have 5 year old Note9, and recently broke my display where small part of it is just black. I have been searching for a phone to replace it with, with very few criteria: modern SOC, non-folding, not ugly looking.

Its breathtaking how many phones just go nuts on their backside, stuff Id be ashamed to pull out in public (oneplus 12, oneplus open, xiaomi 14 ultra). When theres finally some normal lens housing that isnt protruding on a side making the phone wobble while laid flat on a table (like almost every remaining phone), it almost doubles the phone width.

And then when theres finally a phone Id like to buy thanks to its big battery, sleek design and no front camera cutout (Nubia Redmagic 9 Pro), the must fuck it up by adding a freaking fan to it. And ofc their Z60 Ultra has again huge and uneven camera housing with red accent around main camera.

Its as if every manufacturer is either conforming to herd, or going batshit crazy.

The reason people are buying those phone is because theres no choice. Not that theres no choice because people are buying it.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> tastefully integrating AI Tastefully integrating AI involves not uploading all of my photos and speech and text to the cloud and doing who knows what with that personal data. The majority of this data should never leave my device and that's why on-device LLMs/AI are much more tasteful.

You can control that.

To what extent? Google buries a lot of their privacy options deep within settings of individual apps and the settings menu

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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That phone isn't a squircle, it is a rounded square. Those rounded edges seem to be inspired by google material design. Also phones have converged to the metal band, glass back before the iphone did it. Mobile phones are a mature technology and their designs have converged to the designs people are buying.

I really like the design of this red magic phone. https://global.redmagic.gg/pages/redmagic-9-pro

I just wish thered be an option to omit the freaking fan. Really not a fan of fans...

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Can someone explain why we get 12GB and 16GB RAM in these phones, but Apple sells its MacBook Air M3 with 8GB as the starting configuration. Shouldn't mobile phones require much less RAM?

128GB of storage in 2024 is the real shocker here.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I'd buy this if it had USB4 that - when plugged into a dock with a monitor, keyboard and mouse - put up a complete desktop OS (preferably full fat Linux). I could then use my phone as a thin-client for work or gaming, perhaps even experimenting with proton locally. Apple already demonstrated that mobile hardware is capable of workstation workloads so I'd see this as a natural step forward. Beyond that, there isn't an…

I thought the older Pixel 8 Pro already had a "desktop mode" feature for that.

I'm pretty sure it's half baked and useless

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

What really annoys me is that that there are like dozens of Android phones on sale in major stores right now, from different manufacturers, and they are all the same. All featureless ~6 inch slabs where the only difference seems to be the arrangement of the camera lenses on the back, even on the software side they are all pretty much the same. I understand that we have found some kind of an optimum, that it is the fo…

For many years - I don't know whether it's still the case as I'm out of the industry now - the major mobile operators in the US had (increasing) requirements about the minimum fraction of the front of the phone that was covered by the screen. They also had requirements for battery life. Given geometry and minimum-practical bezel sizes, both of those factors led toward larger phones.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

> I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features Google has been tastefully integrating AI into phones for a while now using opt-ins. The now-many-years old phone screening feature ensures the fear of spam won't lead to unintentionally missing calls from the doctor/dentist who call from unknown numbers. Screening suspicious calls instead of declining them is a massive quality of life…

The AI editing tools in the Google Photos app (https://blog.google/products/photos/google-photos-editing-fe...) also feel like magic and have been very useful/convenient for me, so honestly I can't agree with all the negative comments. It feels like there are plenty of ways to incorporate AI that add value for users and don't require a weird ChatGPT-like interface.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Yeah that. Pixel 6A and 7A. Unreliable as hell. Went straight back to iOS. Edit to clarify: constant problems with payments, bluetooth, eSIMs.

Weird. My 7A runs fine. I do swap out a lot of apps though, like keyboard and application selector.

what do you use?
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