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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by not_alexb »

hi-v-rocknroll wrote: post #615
rapatel0 wrote: post #468

I lived for about 12 months in telegraph hill (got lucky with a solid apartment). I had my wife and 1 year old son. Despite it being a really nice and affluent neighborhood, there was a weekly mugging outside my house. Any packages or items left outside were basically taken if left out for more than 1 hour. My neighbor’s car parked in front of the house was stolen, taken for a joyride and left in a random part of the…

While SF is a nice place to visit, but the sheer numbers of unreasonable, lemming-like people who will spend and do anything to cling to live there as some sort of Promised Land™ make it a hellish place to try to live a sustainable life for almost everyone who isn't already a multimillionaire. Keeping a car parked in SF to as far south as San Mateo on the street is a recipe for catalytic converter theft. Visit the de…

California is massive though, and I would argue there is nothing in the rest of California that resembles the Bay even a little bit. Redding is nothing like the Bay; Joshua Tree is nothing like the Bay; Orange County is nothing like the Bay; Big Bear is nothing like the Bay. None of those regions are anything like the other, too. Hell, the difference inside 10 miles of Los Angeles is enormous. Compare Venice Beach to East LA for example.

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Post by burningChrome »

edaemon wrote: post #623
burningChrome wrote: post #613

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I don't think Twitter was the turning point. I remember his public image really starting to sour after his spat with the divers who were trying to save those boys trapped in a cave in Thailand.

Totally forgot about this one, thanks for reminding me of this. I agree, the media really went after him for what he said and I can see that now, his public image took a huge hit because of it.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Post by not_alexb »

lmm wrote: post #759
janalsncm wrote: post #371

Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

Talent pool is downstream of the "flamebait reasons" though. Maybe they're not moving out of SF directly because of the high crime etc., they're moving out of SF because they can't attract talent in SF... but that may well be at least partly because of the high crime etc..

I've lived in high crime areas, and SF doesn't have the kind of high crime that would actually deter me. The monotony of a homogeneous population is enough to keep me away from the Bay for as long as I can; and I know plenty of other talented people that feel the same

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Post by amrocha »

next_xibalba wrote: post #655
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You think the engineers at Tesla and SpaceX, who have created jaw dropping technical marvels, don’t respect themselves? I’m not saying Musk isn’t an asshole, I don’t know him. And I’m willing to guess you don’t either. But it’s real hard to argue that his companies haven’t done amazing engineering results.

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Post by lolinder »

throw4847285 wrote: post #444
hintymad wrote: post #412

There is a famous paper about the location of company headquarters: they get as close as possible to the residence of company CEOs. If we don't consider the CEO's influence, I'm actually curious if the location of company headquarters has to do with the average age of the employees in the Bay Area. As the employees start to have families, they most likely move to the south bay for better or for worse, and I have a ha…

Just in response to your second point, I do think that's specific to you and your circles. I know multiple retired or semi-retired people who have moved towards the center of a city. Without work to keep them occupied, they want the hustle and bustle, which means something to do. And driving has become more of a hassle and a barrier to the kinds of lives they want to live. These are east coast or midwest cities, so m…

> I do think that's specific to you and your circles. I know multiple retired or semi-retired people...

Just a note that this reversal could just as easily be specific to you and your circles.

In this thread all we have is two people who find anecdotally that some older people move to live near where they themselves live. Given how many people make some kind of change in retirement that's hardly surprising. We'd need actual data to come to any conclusion about large-scale trends.

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Post by jrflowers »

wisconsiway wrote: post #682
jrflowers wrote: post #487

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“You mentioned that bringing back nazis killed the site but curiously you did not at any point in any way imply that it is the world’s biggest platform… The argument you’re making solely in my head isn’t very consistent!”

It's a distillation of site-wide sentiment exemplified by your comment in one particular dimension.

I see. It is a response to an adept amalgamation of what was posted and could maybe have been posted but was not posted. This method of mixing real and theoretical posts makes sense when we introduce a dimensionality of posts that includes both observed and observab-

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Post by amrocha »

fantasybuilder wrote: post #635
WheatMillington wrote: post #508

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I have lived 39 years here in New Zealand and have never witnessed or been near a shooting. I'm not saying shootings have never happened in New Zealand, but the idea that these things "happen everywhere" is asinine.

San Francisco has nearly 8 times higher population density than Auckland. Add to that other factors like the size of the CA economy (wealth attracts crime), a lax criminal system, attractive social services (compared to the rest of the US), etc etc. It's an apples to oranges comparison.

We both know it’s none of those things, it’s access to guns

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Post by mistrial9 »

julianeon wrote: post #480
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There is a mile of difference between "person in the Army" and "West Point graduate." Also I want to clarify that the Master's Degree isn't like an online grift, it's really Stanford's graduate program (see link). https://knight-hennessy.stanford.edu/

granted on the West Point part, but it was not very many years ago that Stanford did not even assign grades to class credits.. the vast majority of undergraduates were simply uniformly without flaw?

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Post by thwarted »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #721
doctorpangloss wrote: post #381

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> Even commuting within sf can be kind of a pain it took our folks 50 minutes from both areas in the mission and Menlo Park to get to an office in South Park. This is not to impunge on your credibility, but it takes me 16 minutes to get from my door in 21st and Valencia to the door at 313 Brandan next to South Park. This touches on some positive trends in San Francisco: of course, I e-bike, so I can get anywhere pret…

> infrastructure improvements Do you mean biking infrastructure? Also, what do you do during the rainy season?

Rainy "season" in SF? That's January, and the past few years even January had been pretty dry.

That is in fact why I think SF has a bad rap for being dirty: it doesn't rain very much. I've lived in SF since 2007, before that I'm Chicago for 14 years. I was recently back in Chicago for a few weeks. It gets just as dirty as SF or any other city, but it rained three times in a single week in Chicago (two with tornado warnings), which does wonders for washing away just about everything, including all kinds of smells, detritus and (human or otherwise) excrement.

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