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Post by mbreese »

ngneer wrote: post #695
mbreese wrote: post #683

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In some industries, anything that “computes” or has a data connection is strictly regulated. If data can move in or out, it needs to be verified. So, if you want to avoid those validation steps, it would need to be a dumb device without an OS. Like the parent said - just a monitor.

I agree with the sentiment, but it is harder and harder to find truly "dumb" devices anymore. USB has a complicated (and vulnerable) firmware stack. Monitors have hackable on screen display controllers. Unless you want to go back to VGA... Just saying... https://github.com/redballoonshenanigans/monitordarkly

In this context, I think of two things: hackable spying and data exfiltration.

If a device runs processes that can be hacked so that it can report on your activities. Capturing the display or keyboard input would be examples. This generally requires an active network connection, but not always. Because this device runs a version of Android, it’s potentially hackable (I’m not saying it isn’t secure, just that it would have to be validated).

Second, if a device can store or transfer data, it would be possible to send confidential documents out the door without knowing about it. Because this has on-board storage (and is small), it has this issue too.

A monitor, even if its OSD/firmware was hacked, is much less likely to be able to do either of these things.

There are industries that have real concerns about data privacy and security. In these cases, the dumber a device, generally the better.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by freedomben »

jojule wrote: post #79
boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

I would love to see terminal/unix being part of the story. I realize that one can install Termux, but telling the story without it would be super attractive for developers. It would also further differentiate from iPad. Any thoughts on this for us developers?

GP has said elsewhere that they are going to provide bootloader unlocking, so alternative OSes should be possible.

Re: Daylight Computer – New 60fps e-paper tablet

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Post by jasonlotito »

robxorb wrote: post #691
MattRix wrote: post #664

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There are other real time videos on this page https://daylightco.gorgias.help/en-US#article-493382

I've seen that page - it has 16 videos and it's unclear which are sped up, by how much, and which aren't. Some look sped up to my eye, and even if they aren't, I simply can't trust they aren't because they've shown they won't inform me so. This is a super bad look for a new product offering whose entire killer feature and market differentiation is based on its supposed blazing speed. Posting ANY video that's sped up…

It's documentation. Sure, they could add the speed of the videos, but honestly, I want it optimized for showing me how to use the feature, not serving something it's not: marketing material.

Apple does this as well in it's documentation, and no one complains. Lots of companies do this. So, complaining about the documentation being optimized as documentation is silly in my eyes.

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Post by josmar »

hmottestad wrote: post #597
yc-kraln wrote: post #595

This would be killer for musicians!

I would recommend something bigger. There are several 13.3” e-ink tablets that will allow you to show an A4 sheet of music. There is even a dual 13.3” tablet that has two 13.3” e-ink displays and folds in half.

> There is even a dual 13.3” tablet that has two 13.3” e-ink displays and folds in half.

Do you have a link?

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Post by neogodless »

HenryBemis wrote: post #196
stefanha wrote: post #177

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Thank you! This quick overview is helpful: https://player.vimeo.com/video/922512661

It looks like the speed of the video is at 1.25 or something like that. The hand/finger moves kinda un-naturally. Is it just me? Either way, it looks great. I do watch some YT vids, but I focus on the audio (i.e. watching some urgent news on Sky News (live) - video detail is not as important when something very bad has happened).

https://player.vimeo.com/video/921370292

Appears to be the original speed version.

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Post by natrys »

liendolucas wrote: post #616
natrys wrote: post #578

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Can't you just get Syncthing or Termux (for rsync) from fdroid? That's what I do on any Android. No cloud bullshit or account in Google necessary.

Sure, I can. And I do on my mobile phone cause is the most covenient and fast thing to do and don't have much of a choice. But why do I need to put termux on a device when it is already running a full-fledged linux? How would you feel if tomorrow you are forced to use Docker just because you can't have root access to your PC? For me it doesn't make any sense at all. I'm really disappointed of seeing cool stuff locked…

I need to preface by saying that I wholeheartedly agree with your overarching point. Everyone should truly own their devices which means at least unlocked bootloader, full root access. I also agree that vendor customised androids are also frequently annoying. That said I don't really agree with this take:

> But why do I need to put termux on a device when it is already running a full-fledged linux?

Android is not a full-fledged Linux. It's linux kernel to be sure, but it never pretended to have usual (GNU) userspace. It even uses its own libc. Under this circumstance, I am not sure why it's unusual to have to install an extra package to get a foreign userspace working. It's not particularly different from when you have to use system package manager to install a different shell in your Debian or different libc in Alpine linux e.g. They could go full open source (like AOSP) and this situation wouldn't be any different.

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Post by moffkalast »

callalex wrote: post #767

I see the website for about half a second on my up to date iPhone and then it just says “client side error” and blanks out the entire screen. Now I have no idea what your product is. Plain html never killed anybody.

I'm sure you can theoretically make an effective jump scare in plain html and give someone a heart attack.

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Post by divan »

boesboes wrote: post #589
divan wrote: post #85

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Any chance of the A4 size device and higher DPI in the future? Will pay any money for that. A4 e-ink has considerable audience that doesn't know they need it – people who read papers. All the academia is formatted for A4 and stored in PDFs, which is pretty unreadable even on 10". People literally print them on paper to read. I currently enjoying A4-sized Boox Tab X and it's a game changer, as I read a lot of papers a…

I've been waiting for 10 years for a A4 e-ink device. Only Sony made one, but it was never available anywhere. And pretty meh probably too :) Remarkable 2 was pretty decent for notes, but terrible for reading imo. And the bs to get a proper ebook app on it etc was just too much for me.

Try Onyx Boox Tab X. I found it to be the only viable option now and it's really good. They did some own stuff to have "ultrafast" refresh rate (you can choose desirable tradoff some ghosting for refresh rate). Stylus and notes are pretty good too.

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Post by MisterTea »

boochiboo12 wrote: post #21

Hi yall, founder of Daylight here. Happy to answer any questions you have. Long time lurker, so this is pretty cool to finally take part :) I made this because I wanted the eye-strain free and minimalist qualities of my kindle/Eink applied to so much more of what I do on a computer. Lack of speed and ghosting felt like it made traditional Eink impossible to do most computing tasks. So we focused on making the most Pa…

Any chance a 3rd party OS can be flashed?
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