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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by yurishimo »

djur wrote: post #681
celdon25 wrote: post #524

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It's not really victimless when you have cases of psychosis and other health issues that negatively affect people around them, and put strain on taxpayers and the health system. This is Should be strictly prescription-only, and not with the rubber stamp model that "medical" marijuana clinics use. But that isn't politically correct so it's better to ignore the science and just drug the masses. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih…

The evidence that exists suggests that heavy cannabis usage _at an early age_ is associated with the development of psychotic disorders. No state that has legalized cannabis has permitted minors to purchase it. No evidence exists that cannabis usage later in life causes psychosis. There is also a lack of population evidence that increased cannabis usage among the public results in increased rates of diagnosis of psyc…

To be fair, if it is legalized, that makes it easier to get for minors. Look at how many high schoolers smoke/vape even though you're supposed to be 18. I still don't think it's worth keeping it as a schedule I drug, but this is a possible externality that we need to account for as a society.

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Post by yurishimo »

galaxyLogic wrote: post #694

Why is it that in Amsterdam you have coffee-shops where you can sit relax and smoke cannabis but nothing like that seems to exist in New York City? Or elsewhere in America, is there?

Honestly, it's probably mostly just a tourism thing at this point. Most of the Dutch people I know tend to not care about weed but they see coffee-shops as a thing for tourists or international students. If you're a regular user in NL, then you have a hookup or grow your own plants.

Also, anecdotally, I can smell a lot less weed in Amsterdam than when I've caught a wiff of it in the US. You have to be walking right by the shop before you smell it usually. I'm not sure if this is a local regulation or what, but I suspect the Dutch would be much less tolerant if their public spaces reeked 24/7 (but no worried about the dog poop on the sidewalk)!

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #496
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #460

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Cash transactions require you to make change and are a target for theft. This is neither free nor zero time.

> Cash transactions require you to make change and are a target for theft. This is neither free nor zero time. That's why I specified "for the consumer", who is typically the person that is going to make a purchasing decision. Using crypto for dispensaries has been tried, and it hasn't gained traction in the many years that its been an option. If you introduce friction (by forcing people to transact using a novel pay…

> That's why I specified "for the consumer"

It takes the same amount of time to make change for the consumer as the store. Or more, because now you have to wait while they make change for the person in front of you, then for you on top of that.

And nobody wants to be at a store which is more likely to get robbed. Not only do you lose your cash, you could lose your life.

> The fact that the very few dispensaries that accept crypto continue to accept cash and debit should tell you what consumers like.

There are multiple consumers. If you can get half of them to use Bitcoin, you have half as much cash on hand to lose in a robbery, and on top of that half as much incentive for someone to rob you to begin with.

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Post by junto »

Extropy_ wrote: post #164
lambdaba wrote: post #117

Great, now do psilocybin, LSD and MDMA.

DMT and mescaline too.

DMT is a drug I’d highly recommend everyone take once but only once.

The experience of existing for a short time without the concept of self, experiencing zero sensory filters, and finally having your brain rebooted as it has a kernel panic (and going through the brain kernel load process as it does so) is mind blowing.

It’s enough to convince you that we live in a highly advanced simulation. Or one could just be high af.

Also I’m pretty sure it was based on an old version of Linux because I’m convinced I saw the kernel message “Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039“.

QED God is a programmer. :-)

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #512
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #462

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Because you don't have cash to begin with, you have money in a bank account, which you have to convert to something else to pay the dispensary. Converting it via cash instead of Bitcoin just makes it easier for you to be mugged.

To be honest, I’m far more concerned about crypto scams, wallet hacks, etc, than I am worried about getting mugged for ~$100 at the dispensary parking lot.

That seems like a weird set of priorities? If someone hacks your crypto wallet with $100 in it, you could lose $100. If someone mugs you when you have $100 in your wallet, you could lose $100 and get shot.

Crypto scams are... completely unrelated? It's like being worried about using a bank account because there are ponzi schemes that use bank transfers.

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Post by meepmorp »

dragonwriter wrote: post #583
sambull wrote: post #580

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I don't see how this anything but a mandate for the DEA to crack down on recreational.

I don't see how rescheduling to a less-restrictive category is a mandate to change the existing enforcement policy to a more restrictive one.

Obviously, weed has made OP paranoid

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Post by lambdaba »

ineedaj0b wrote: post #617
lambdaba wrote: post #572

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In response to uninformed sibling comments reflexively fearing cannabis use in drivers, see here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/ > Cannabis users perceive their driving under the influence as impaired and more cautious, and given a dose of 7 mg THC (about a third of a joint), drivers rated themselves as impaired even though their driving performance was not; in contrast, at a BAC 0.04% (slightl…

I find it far more likely it has not been studied to the degree alcohol has been, and as a larger sample of users is tested these results will change. I’ve heard every drug under the sun affect adhd for people lately, so I don’t know if that’s a divining rod for truth. Had a guy say Fentanyl really helped his adhd… hm okay. I think our definitions and condition criteria need to separate into more discerning terms for…

Ethanol is a poison, what, outside of prejudice, would make you find it more likely it's simply a lack of studies? Maybe it simply hasn't reached me, but I never even heard about cannabis being chiefly blamed on a car accident, mind you, people can drive recklessly sober, but, again, if anything cannabis is going to make them be more cautious. For one, surely you have heard of the "paranoia" that cannabis users often get at higher doses, where they feel distant objects are closer than they really are.

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Post by lambdaba »

spike021 wrote: post #711
lambdaba wrote: post #572

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In response to uninformed sibling comments reflexively fearing cannabis use in drivers, see here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/ > Cannabis users perceive their driving under the influence as impaired and more cautious, and given a dose of 7 mg THC (about a third of a joint), drivers rated themselves as impaired even though their driving performance was not; in contrast, at a BAC 0.04% (slightl…

Next we'll have studies seeking to prove drivers who drink enough to reach the Ballmer Peak will have a mind in the utmost condition for driving.

I'm not surprised to see decades of propaganda and clichés have done their work on many of us.

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Post by mulmen »

djur wrote: post #691
mulmen wrote: post #570

Will this open hiring options for government agencies? Will nonviolent drug dealers be released from prison?

Most people convicted of nonviolent drug crimes are in state prisons and cannot be freed by the federal government, but the administration has been issuing pardons and commutations over the past several years for the small number of people that have federal cannabis convictions.

Ah interesting. So does that mean nonviolent prisoners may have already been released in the states with “legal” weed?

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Post by [deleted] »

nulld3v wrote: post #641
sorwin wrote: post #573

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Yeah, no. We're already in a drug crisis as it is. We need to teach people that doing drugs (of any kind) isn't the answer to problems. Soft times seems to have created this problem where people would rather escape their lives than live them out.

I don't think people do psilocybin and LSD to escape from reality. I'm not even sure how that would work, given how I understand tolerance works for those drugs?

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