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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by crazygringo »

gnicholas wrote: post #630

I'm surprised they got rid of the Bard name. It struck me as a really smart choice since a Bard is someone who said things, and it's an old/archaic enough word to not already be in a zillion other names. Gemini, on the other hand, doesn't strike me as particularly relevant (except that perhaps it's a twin of ChatGPT?), and there are other companies with the same name. EDIT: I can see the advantage of picking a name t…

I'm not surprised -- I thought Bard was terrible branding. It's all associations with Shakespeare and poetry and medieval England, and as much as I might personally enjoy those, it's extremely backwards-looking, with archaic connotations. Also it sounds close to "beard" -- hairy stuff.

Gemini sounds like the space program -- futuristic, a leap for mankind. It's got all the right emotional associations. It's a constellation, it's out in space, it's made of stars. Plus it contains "gem" which feels fancy, valuable, refined.

I'm not saying Gemini is the best name I've ever heard or even close to it, but it feels 100% appropriate, in a way that Bard does not.

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Post by digging »

a_wild_dandan wrote: post #663
TillE wrote: post #644

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

To me, bard just sounds phonetically gross. Reminds me of “fart” or “beard.” It calls to mind medieval stuff: the Monte Python mud scene, Skyrim’s most annoying NPCs, plucking lutes. But Gemini? That sounds like a legendary space mission; this collective engineering push against the boundaries of human knowledge. I do not have refined tastes. My b.

> [Gemini] sounds like a legendary space mission

Well, it is one. I wish they'd choose a slightly more unique name but camping on well-known words is a beloved tech tradition.

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Post by benatkin »

jprival wrote: post #734
TillE wrote: post #644

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

I thought “Bard” was an Asimov reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Someday_(short_story) (on top of the more obvious references)

It also rhymes with Card as in Orson Scott Card.

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Post by mrinterweb »

27182818284 wrote: post #159

Search for it in the Play Store, first icons are Crypto.com and Gemini: Buy Bitcoin & Crypto options to install Scroll past the screenshots of those apps Scroll past the Limitied-time events Scroll past the You Might Also Like and Similar Apps OK now we see it, we install, it we launch it and..."Gemini isn't ccurrently available. Try again later." Bravo Google. Great launch.

Same experience. I launched Gemini a second time, and it worked. The first message about "Gemini isn't currently available" was a bad first impression.

One thing the app really needs to be able to do is auto-submit when speaking to it. It offers to replace google assistant, and after trying it out for a couple minutes, it can replace assistant, but I have to manually click to submit each instruction instead of just talking to my phone.

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Post by summerlight »

Beside of the model quality or whatever, I think the subscription plan tiers are structured in a quite weird way, especially for those who already use Google One. Previously, the tiers are reasonably structured:

  1. $9.99/month for 2TB + other benefits. Offered in both monthly and annual plans.
  2. $24.99/month for 5TB. Includes all benefits above. Offered in both monthly and annual plans.
  3. Higher tiers for 10~30TB. Includes all benefits above. Offered only in monthly plans.
The 3rd option doesn't have an annual plan but other than that it's consistent and easy to understand. Now we have one more plan for "AI".

  4. $19.99/month for 2TB + other benefits + Gemini access. Offered only in monthly plans.
Now the existing Google One subscribers are now put in a weird situation. 2TB annual plan users now need to move to a monthly plan to use Gemini. It's worse for higher tiers, since they don't have an upgrade option at all without decreasing the storage size. And Google Fi users are even in the worst case, as they don't even have an option for upgrade, even if they're willing to do so.

I guess they know this so they specified that high tier subscribers can use AI features at no extra charge until July 31 and probably prepare a new plan for them then, but this still create lots of user confusions. Having YT Premium as a separate subscription plan is already a pain, but Google, you don't have to bring this trouble into the product supposed to be the "One".

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Post by dekhn »

Sad launch experience: I download and install the app, and it just tells me "This app isn't available. Try again later".

I'm in US, on a pixel phone and a xoogler. You'd think they would love to give me access.

I also tried going thru assistant, and through the google app, no luck, and after uninstalling and reinstalling the Google app, now the gemini app button just hangs the UI(!) Oh wait... a reboot fixed it. Lol, google has become microsoft.

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summerlight wrote: post #765

Beside of the model quality or whatever, I think the subscription plan tiers are structured in a quite weird way, especially for those who already use Google One. Previously, the tiers are reasonably structured: 1. $9.99/month for 2TB + other benefits. Offered in both monthly and annual plans. 2. $24.99/month for 5TB. Includes all benefits above. Offered in both monthly and annual plans. 3. Higher tiers for 10~30TB.…

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