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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…

"just" is doing a hell of a lot of work there.

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I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. The core of the narrative thus far is that the board fired Altman on the grounds that he was prioritising commercialisation over the not-for-profit mission of OpenAI written into the organisation's charter.[1] Given that Sam has since joined Microsoft, that seems plausible, on its face. The board may have been incompetent and shor…

(I can't comment on the workforce question, but one thing below on bringing SamA back.)

Firstly, to give credit where its due: whatever his faults may be, Altman as the (now erstwhile) front-man of OpenAI, did help bring ChatGPT to the popular consciousness. I think it's reasonable to call it a "mini inflection point" in the greater AI revolution. We have to grant him that. (I've criticized Altman harsh enough two days ago[1]; just trying not to go overboard, and there's more below.)

That said, my (mildly-educated) speculation is that bringing Altman back won't help. Given his background and track record so far, his unstated goal might simply be the good old: "make loads of profit" (nothing wrong it when viewed with a certain lens). But as I've already stated[1], I don't trust him as a long-term steward, let alone for such important initiatives. Making a short-term splash with ChatGPT is one thing, but turning it into something more meaningful in the long-term is a whole another beast.

These sort of Silicon Valley top dogs don't think in terms of sustainability.

Lastly, I've just looked at the board[2], I'm now left wondering how come all these young folks (I'm their same age, approx) who don't have sufficiently in-depth "worldly experience" (sorry for the fuzzy term, it's hard to expand on) can be in such roles.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38312294

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/edit?id=38350890

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Silicon Valley outsider here. Am I being harsh here? I just bothered to look at the full OpenAI board composition. Besides Ilya Sutskever and Greg Brockman, why are these people eligible to be on the OpenAI board? Such young people, calling themselves "President of this", "Director of that". - Adam D'Angelo — Quora CEO (no clue what he's doing on OpenAI board) - Tasha McCauley — a "management scientist" (this is a ne…

Helen Toner funded OpenAI with $30M, which was enough to get a board seat at the time.

Source? Where did that money come from?

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Question for California IP/employment law experts - 1) would you have expected the IP-sharing agreement between MS and OpenAI to contain some provisions for employee poaching, within the constraints allowed by California (?) law? 2) California law has good provisions for workers' rights to leave one company and go to another, but what does it all for company A to do when entering an IP-sharing relationship with compa…

INAL, but I’ve executed contracts with these provisions.

In my understanding, if such a clause exists, Microsoft employees should not solicit OpenAI employees. But, there’s nothing to stop an OpenAI employee from reaching out to Sam and saying “Hey, do you have room for me at Microsoft?” and then answering yes.

Or, Microsoft could open up a couple hundred job reqs based on the team structure Sam used at OpenAI and his old employees could apply that way.

But it wouldn’t be advisable for Sam to send an Email directly to those individuals asking him to join him at Microsoft (if this provision exists).

But maybe he queued everything up prior to joining Microsoft when he was able to solicit them to join a future team.

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If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…

Watch Satya also save the research arm by making Karpathy or Ilya the head of Microsoft Research

BTW, has Karpathy signed the petition?

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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I mean, no matter what people say about what happened, or what actually did, one can paint this picture:

( - OpenAI exists, allegedly to be open)

- Microsoft embraces OpenAI

- Microsoft extends OpenAI

- OpenAI gets extinguished, and Microsoft ends up controlling it.

First three points are solid and, intent or not, end result is the same.

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