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"Sex is a spectrum" is hard scientific truth. Unlike computers, biology doesn't work in binaries. Intersex people exist and are surprisingly common.

Allow me to introduce you to the X and Y chromosomes.

Allow me to introduce you to Klinefelter syndrome and the difference between genotype and phenotype.

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Gender is all about social interactions. For example, blue and pink being "masculine" and "feminine." Is there any relation to male or female chromosomes that would make blue appropriate for someone with X and Y chromosomes, and pink appropriate for someone with 2 X chromosomes? Of course not. Same goes for wearing makeup or high heels. At a different time in history, those things would have been considered "manly" b…

What about wanting to quit their jobs and take care of babies? That’s social/behavioral, so part of what you’d call gender. But it’s also rooted in biology.

It's not just cis women who want to do that though. And there are many cis women and trans men who don't. Not to mention, part of why it might be the case that women tend to quit their jobs and raise kids is because there's a lot of societal pressure to do that, and until relatively recently women (in the US at least) haven't really had the right to be independent at all.

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Gender as a concept distinct from sex is a way of describing an existing social phenomenon. Gender, though traditionally tied to biological sex, changes over time. What we define as "masculine" and "feminine" traits change as society changes, and can even differ between societies, despite the fact that male and female chromosomes have not changed. Just because no one had described this distinction before the last cen…

The terminology of the debate gets confused a bit because while indeed the expectations of people’s behavior, dress, etc. based on their sex is indeed a social construct and has been probably since the beginning of humanity, that wasn’t what “gender” meant until very recently. As far as I can tell, “gender” and “sex” were completely synonymous until 50 years ago, even in niche academic communities, and until maybe 10…

I will agree that the terminology could probably be better. But my original point is that this is a pretty high-profile issue and has been for a while, so anyone taking a hardline stance of "I'm gonna deny trans people until someone makes a good argument why gender and sex are different" is willfully ignorant at best.

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This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…

I don't see anything in Elon Musk's past operation of businesses as CEO that suggests to me he's going to have a better sense of how to run a social network than the previous operators. I predict the best case scenario is that he does no worse.

Twitter is basically an internet scale public bathroom wall with everyone scrawling short hot takes onto the walls. The best case scenario has always been that it shut down and I hope we are one day closer to that eventuality.

It is ironic and laughable that Elons post to advertisers is done with screenshots of text. After 20+ years of mainstream networked computing this is what passes as a state of art platform and user experience to communicate to n audience.

The bulk of the problems Twitter faces today are amplified and directly inflicted by the essential design of the product.

Tl/Dr; nothing of value was lost.

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Who are the other shareholders? I thought the entire point of the purchase is that he bought out all the shareholders.

Maybe shareholders was the wrong term, doesn’t he have a duty to like the banks and Saudis and other investors

He doesn't have any duties to debt investors beyond what's explicitly in a contract with them. If he has equity co-investors (which he was certainly attempting to syndicate at one point) then those are indeed shareholders (private rather than public, but still shareholders) and he'll have duties to them.

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Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Kanye's ban, he's just a mentally ill person. I don't think he meant "death con" he just didn't know that it's actually "def con." His remarks are still reprehensible. Twitter's whole moderation problem has been it i…

>Babylon Bee being suspended was one of the dumber things the previous Twitter rules had done. It's a satire site, it's right leaning, nothing in the piece they said was hateful or even an unpopular view. Twitter banned the Babylon Bee for targeting a random and rather anonymous bureaucrat that likely isn't among the 1000 most powerful people in government in the US for the sole purpose that she is trans. This target…

Yet the Ayatollah can tweet at will. Nothing to see here.

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Finally, diversity of ideas, and not diversity of skin color.

Looking forward to the diverse and valuable ideas on whether or not the Earth is round, climate change is real, and jewish people should or should not have people going death con on them.

So is everyone else who understands free speech

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If they wanted to really add value, they could write their decisions like SCOTUS does, as the reasoning in the decisions would be available to all involved, and they would be taking ownership of their assessments, with Elon as a tiebreaker for them. The discourse around those decisions itself would add value to the platform and the internet. The "public editor" role at newspapers is close, but it's still one person,…

The departure from that analogy is the fact that we the people do not really have influence over who gets elected to this counsel. Power in the wrong hands is just as dangerous

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I would imagine a uniform distribution of people from across racial, political, age, and socio-economic classes would be a good start. The theory is that if a moderation council is mostly well-off, white liberals, then their decisions will more likely contain bias from those sorts of people. A moderation council needs people of various ages, races, and political backgrounds so that the net bias in their decisions is…

We have arrived at the peak of capitalism where corporations are as powerful as governments

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Diversity of viewpoints is good, even if they are all "wrong" with various amounts of "nuggets" of truth. The futile exercise of preventing someone from hurting someone else's feelings, is the main casualty, and that's a very very good thing.

"vaccines cause mild autism"

Misinformation has real world impact

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