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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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> Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease.

I don't give a damn about Parler or USA politics.

The troubling thing here is how the security underpinnings of an entire platform like Parler can be screwed over by third-party SaaS provider.

The fact that the platform contained some "bad actors" is only a distraction. This is the real issue, or one of them.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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post #745

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Please send me twitter links of people conspiring to commit violence so I can report them.

Here are some interesting ones: https://twitter.com/MonkeyWrenchATX/status/13162253889059266... https://twitter.com/MonkeyWrenchATX/status/13089834842880450... https://twitter.com/Windstalker361/status/129150221759012044... https://twitter.com/ScothSenpai/status/1311436929351790592 I agree Parler is/was shit and yay for its death, but there IS a non-trivial amount of extremist stuff on Twitter as well and IMO letting…

The first two of those are non-violent opinions you clearly disagree with.

The second two are pro gun ownership - which would be perceived as appeals to violence in most of the world, but in the US is a perfectly common political position.

So this fails to support your false equivalence re: Parler and Twitter.

There's actually plenty of extremist hate filled bile on twitter, but these are terrible examples. Search "#killallmen" for some readily accessible examples.

Still, kind of absurd to suggest it represents the mainstay of content on the platform.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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This story truly terrifies me: my team owns my company's sign up page. (I speak for myself and not them, of course). Sounds like Parler, fearing that their OTP provider might go down, decided to fail-open, ie: if the dependency throws an exception, presume there's something wrong with the dependency and that the code provided is acceptable. It never occurred to them that the dependency could be down permanently, or t…

>I would also probably buy said malicious actors a beer if I met them, accompanied by a high five.

You would, would you? Thousands of individuals who by and large wanted to try out a competitor to Facebook ended up getting their personal details downloaded and leaked (and we're talking about very sensitive details here), and you're going to buy a beer for the criminals who did this? I assume before you turn them into the authorities for their 10-20 year sentences?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

There is a huge difference between a platform censoring/banning you and a community on the platform censoring/banning you. No irony involved. That subreddit is just trying to have discussion among like minded people without trolls and brigaders disrupting everything, they are a highly targeted subreddit for those acts. Reddit as a platform still exists for you and joining or making new communities is possible at the…

Wasn't the_donald subreddit doing a lot of brigading and censoring not just the trolls but anyone with a differing opinion?

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

Have you ever been to /r/politics? It's a groupthink circle jerk. The difference, of course, is that /r/conservative is explicitly defined as a conservative community while /r/politics implies they are some sort of neutral community which they most certainly are not. At any rate, finding a diverse community of ideological people coming together to discuss politics with intellectual fervor is rather difficult these da…

/r/moderatepolitics is pretty reasonable though the idea of "moderate" is more about speech than views.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

I get that it is a kind of contradiction to claim being about free-speech, but to see their point, when free=speech and they as the primary advocates for free-speech are under clear and direct and persistent and unrelenting assault of their speech and thought, I can see how they would take on practical positions to protect their community from infiltrators and subversives as they are struggling to survive under relentless abuse of power.

What you should realize, and this is a general fact, is that when any group is withering under constant barrage and assault by what is really objectively an evil agenda of oppression (freedom of expression is in fact a human right under the Universal Declaration of Human Rights), regardless of what you believe or say, they do not have the luxury of high moral consistency while facing free-speech eradication by an evil regime hell bent on controlling all aspects of humanity.

And kid yourself not, what the tech companies are doing to suppress free speech is not only purely and objectively evil, it is a threat to the US Constitution, which is the lynchpin and capstone for freedom and liberties all over the world too. If the American Constitution/values of free speech falter as they seem to be, I pity all the poor souls around the world who have lived under an umbrella of the US Constitution who will suffer immensely more and in deafening silence of globe dominating regime censorship.

There will be no people to take up the cause, e.g., of the Uighurs if the US regime wants to make nice with the Chinese regime for whatever reason. There will be no reporting of atrocities or even knowledge of the lies that justified the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq and the killing of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis defending their hime against an evil invasion. There will be what the party wants … ney, demands you believe. Please see the book 1984 for reference. Many say they have read it, I seriously wonder if that is true.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Hey, spoiler alert for people regarding that link -- there's some very strong, graphically violent language. Don't click if you're not in a good head space at the moment.

i think its good to see it so people understand that there are literally millions of other americans that actively want them dead

I pushed back in one direction, and now I'll push back in the other.

I do not think "literally millions" do. That is an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence.

I am saddened by extremists like this, on all sides.

I want to win a tough but fair political fight, and I think that's what almost everyone in America wants, too. I'm sorry some people think 60 court cases were simultaneously wrongly decided, but I don't feel sympathy for anyone who thinks the next step is to storm the Capitol.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...

There is a huge difference between a platform censoring/banning you and a community on the platform censoring/banning you. No irony involved. That subreddit is just trying to have discussion among like minded people without trolls and brigaders disrupting everything, they are a highly targeted subreddit for those acts. Reddit as a platform still exists for you and joining or making new communities is possible at the…

> That subreddit is just trying to have discussion among like minded people without trolls and brigaders disrupting everything

I love this incredibly sanitized version of what goes on in /r/conservative.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

#770
post #284

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And now information about your account has been leaked, and will be lumped in with more nefarious accounts. I have a feeling that a significant number of people have similarly made accounts out of curiosity. I've had my parents and some less technically inclined friends recently ask me what Parler is because it's been in the news. These aren't people that fall under the alt-right categorization in the slightest, and…

I don't care if my personal information was leaked. I followed discussions, posted a comment or two like, "What evidence do you have for that?" There seemed to be tons of other accounts that did the same, along with accounts by obvious Lefts who were there to troll. I highly doubt there will be blowback for the kind of participation I did. I am absolutely a privacy advocate. However, in the case where the continued e…

i think we are post-privacy.

we need compassion to restrain ourselves from harming others

but I dont think anyone can expect to hide from anyone else on this rock at this point.

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