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Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by bilbo0s »

lliamander wrote: post #753
bilbo0s wrote: post #743

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I'm one of those people who has always loathed both liberals and conservatives, but the attack on the capitol went way too far. You guys want to march around and yell in the streets, I actually don't have a problem with it. I find it annoying, but as long as you're not killing anyone, I don't care. However, you want to go into congress and subvert the Constitutional order? Yeah, that's a whole different issue. I'm so…

> I'm sorry if the conservatives can't understand the difference between BLM people yelling in the streets, and Trump people searching the capitol for senators and representatives to stop a Constitutionally mandated vote count. That is manifestly not the comparison being made. Antifa and BLM rioters burned down apartment buildings with people still inside in Kenosha. Over the summer, dozens of people were killed and…

I don't think you're hearing me. I said I don't give a mosquito's dick about either of you. If you want to burn down your neighborhoods, go right ahead. You go to the Capitol to commit violence, it's an entirely different story. A coup is orders of magnitude more serious than street violence. You act as though thugs beating each other up in the streets is the same as thugs coming to the capitol to beat up our senators in an attempt to thwart the Constitution. It's not. I don't care whether or not you understand that it's not. It's gone way too far, and it's time to bring things back in hand. Be mad if it brings you comfort, but keep your thugs in the streets and away from our capitol and political leaders.

You seem pretty bothered by the street violence, I would advise you to stay away from the Capitol and instead report the street violence to your local constabulary. That's the best I can do for you.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

Triv888 wrote: post #630
trustfundbaby wrote: post #279

I was on the fence about this, but reading the comments convinced me it was the absolute right decision. The fact that all these institutions just allowed this horrible hateful speech for four years, in the name of free speech etc, despite all the harassment, harm (mental and otherwise) it caused to so many people in America actually emboldened so many to the extent that now that they crossed this invisible line, the…

The world is backward... my friends that are poor vote republicans and the companies that benefit from the republicans shit on them.

That is by design. The Republican party only serves the wealthy who want government to serve them exclusively. Their numbers are too small to vote themselves into power so they cook up ways to convince disenfranchised groups to glom on. By not enacting policies that satisfy these people, the GOP elites maintain an agitated base that keeps voting for them because they believe all the party propaganda. It's 1984 as an operators manual.

This scheme was almost too successful when the tea partiers got elected and weren't fully on board with the real game plan. They were either assimilated or fell out of favor. Boehner's inability to contol them is why he was reduced to tears.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by colejohnson66 »

imperio59 wrote: post #665
ineedasername wrote: post #503

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I don't see how it's anti competetive. The free market advocates on HN would say that other people will create other companies and gain the market share current companies have turned down. Or that existing niche companies will find an expanded market serving them. It's also important to note that companies aren't cutting ties with Trump because of his political ideology, they're cutting ties with him because there's…

We could say there is a strong argument Joe Biden and his family broke the law, and indeed there's a criminal investigation into Hunter and associates. However not only did all the big tech companies not withdraw support for Biden or prevent his campaign from using their apps, they doubled down and censored the story so most voters would not hear of it before the elections. Again, big double standards at play here fr…

The Hunter Biden conspiracy has been debunked dozens of times over. That’s why the companies haven’t withdrawn support for his family. Trump, OTOH, has pushed the boundaries of acceptable his entire presidency, and has almost certainly broken the law in the process many time.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by oceanplexian »

eecc wrote: post #756
systemvoltage wrote: post #481

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I am also worried. It feels like Big Tech flourished in last 4 years with advertisement revenue while staying hush about these issues, but all of a sudden they have an epiphany now. Big Tech leaders are selfish, cowards, clueless and just as vulnerable as the government leaders. They were interested in milking billions in Ads from these hate speech, particularly Twitter. If I were employees at these big companies, I…

Yeah, they’re cowards - a bit - but let’s be honest they’re in the business of making money, not political activism (besides boilerplate corporate facade.) Had they acted earlier they would have been punished heavily by the Trump clique, and most likely ousted by their own shareholders, to be replaced by executives that would have done precisely what they have done

They got into the business of political activism when they plastered Black Lives Matter on their websites, app stores, and products this summer. Twitter and Facebook did the same when they censored a NY Post story about a politician this fall. Big Tech is very much about political activism.

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by Taurenking »

dboreham wrote: post #664
lliamander wrote: post #653

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Democrats have challenged electors for dumb reasons before. It's their right. Get a grip.

They didn't tell millions of people that the election had been outright stolen. Not even in 2016 when it pretty much was.

That is a delusional statement

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by [deleted] »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #600
ineedasername wrote: post #580

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So the government should instead step in and decide what companies can and can't do with their own services & infrastructure? That sounds a lot more fascist to me than a company saying, up front, "Here's the rules for using our service. Violate them and you can take your business elsewhere." And considering the ToS citations were I service of a potentially criminal act, fascism doesn't enter the picture: This is as m…

> Violate them and you can take your business elsewhere. Here, I fixed it for you: Violate them, and if you are not someone whose political views we support, you can take your business elsewhere.

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Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by Taurenking »

standardUser wrote: post #497
TearsInTheRain wrote: post #447

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> Convincing people who don't understand very well their rights, democracy, civics, and etc that their RIGHTS were being infringed; by others exercising their rights. I dont think we need to infantilize Trump supporters. They are capable of evaluating claims made by the GOP.

We've seen poll after poll for a couple decades showing that Fox News viewers have a weaker grip on the facts than other news consumers. And we've seen that the conservative movement in the US will cling to ideas that aren't embraced by any other major parties in the Western world. And that most Republicans will accept a lie like "the steal" with no evidence, and even despite ample evidence to the contrary. I don't w…

Ah, yes, the famous polls which predicted a 99/1 landslide win for Hillary

Re: Stripe bans Trump campaign

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Post by lliamander »

bilbo0s wrote: post #761
lliamander wrote: post #753

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> I'm sorry if the conservatives can't understand the difference between BLM people yelling in the streets, and Trump people searching the capitol for senators and representatives to stop a Constitutionally mandated vote count. That is manifestly not the comparison being made. Antifa and BLM rioters burned down apartment buildings with people still inside in Kenosha. Over the summer, dozens of people were killed and…

I don't think you're hearing me. I said I don't give a mosquito's dick about either of you. If you want to burn down your neighborhoods, go right ahead. You go to the Capitol to commit violence, it's an entirely different story. A coup is orders of magnitude more serious than street violence. You act as though thugs beating each other up in the streets is the same as thugs coming to the capitol to beat up our senator…

I don't know why you are talking to me as if I have any influence, but the contrast of your concern for the well-being of politicians with your apparent disregard for the well-being of innocent civilians is disquieting.
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