Say what you will about current events but when big tech can prevent the sitting President from addressing the people, they have too much power.
As far as I know he can still address the people. Presidents were able to before Facebook was invented.
Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump
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#762The statements by Facebook and others pushing moral justifications around Facebook's censorship fail to entertain the possibility that even morality is subjective and relative. Facebook makes its decisions based on its own goals and preferences and morals. Facebook has established itself unfairly as a moral arbiter on a platform that is so widely used that is treated like a public utility. The people who currently ag…
It's not a public utility and being widely used does not make it one. Lots of people eat at McDonald's and get coffee from Starbucks, that does not make McDonald's or Starbucks a public utility.
Network effects don't apply to a restaurant. Your analogy is broken.
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Has it not occurred to you that, maybe, we should judge people for their actions ? Rather than deciding upon an immutable set of Good People and Bad People, we should judge good and bad deeds?
If only Facebook would act that way towards Trump. He called for the people to leave the Capitol.
My friend, if you believe that tepid action redeems the inveterate liar and his despicable record of action, then there is little you won't look past.
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#764I know Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit and all the rest don't count as broadcast media but I feel like we got here in part because the 1987 elimination of FCC's fairness doctrine slowly allowed a shift in how we communicate with each other. We went from specious claims and conspiracy theories being the subject matter of newsletters to their public broadcast to millions via talk radio ~and Fox News~, thus allowin…
Fox (however detestable you may find it) was created as an alternative to the corporate media hegemony on thought, I fear you have it backwards.
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#765This is so Facebook. * Enables and encourages (and makes money off of) spreading hate messages on their platform for years * Hamhandedly does a full reverse and bans of one of the leading spreaders only after it's too late to make a difference. * But just in time to curry favor with the groups newly in power. A twist to the old cliche: too much, too late. How cowardly.
Cowardly no matter how you slice it. But I think there are two perspectives here:
* Doing it only now to curry favor with the groups newly in power
* Not doing it earlier because of pretty certain retribution from the group (man) who was in power.
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So uh, who's going to be the arbiter of what exactly constitutes intolerant or harmful speech? You? Me? Facebook? The government? Twitter? Whoever gets the power to define what's acceptable and not acceptable speech is given too much power. You might trust that arbiter now, tomorrow, but do you honestly believe their incentives will always remain pure?
The problem I see with that line of argument is that it basically means you're arguing we can't do anything about it and just have to accept whatever actions people take regardless of the impacts of those actions. It reads to me like "it's hard, so let us just do nothing".
Why not just stop pretending human beings are too stupid to decide for themselves?
"Oh but this speech is dangerous!" fucking. Bull. Shit.
The moment you start to curtail speech and ideas, you are making a decision on what is and is not true. Fuck that noise.
We are literally getting into the world if 1984 style though crime. The America I grew up in was not afraid of ideas.
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I learned on HN some time ago that: > "May you live in interesting times" is an English expression that is claimed to be a translation of a traditional Chinese curse. While seemingly a blessing, the expression is normally used ironically; life is better in "uninteresting times" of peace and tranquility than in "interesting" ones, which are usually times of trouble. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_i…
“Despite being widely attributed as a Chinese curse, there is no known equivalent expression in Chinese.[2] The nearest related Chinese expression translates as "Better to be a dog in times of tranquility than a human in times of chaos." (寧為太平犬，不做亂世人)”
It looks like the symbols for dog (犬) and person (人) are at end of each verse. I can't speak Chinese, but I'd imagine the line rings well hearing the ordering of subject/object/verb like that.
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#769I’d say this is really the kickoff moment of alternative social media becoming a big deal. Banning Trump and his supporters doesn’t make them disappear, they’ll simply go to another platform.
HN readers should be happy: Facebook is about to get some real competition.
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People are incredibly mean and nasty to each other on nextdoor in my neighborhood, and they literally live down the street from one another. You're completely right, it's not anonymity that causes people to act like this, it's the fact that we as humans can't perceive text on a screen as another human being that activates the empathy center in our brains. Coronavirus has made this 100X worse as people are losing thei…
People on Nextdoor think their neighbors are all like them and wrongly assume it's a safe space for airing out their worst thoughts. Mine is completely full of naked racism, calls for murdering specific people, etc. There doesn't seem to be a way to fix it because the "leader", basically the moderator, of my Nextdoor is the worst of them.
It looks like you can report them if they violate Nextdoor's Community Guidelines and potentially get them demoted.
https://help.nextdoor.com/s/article/How-to-remove-Lead-statu...