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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#763
Because I'm not a front-line worker, or obese/overweight, or in a nursing home, I will have to wait anyway. While I certainly believe in vaccines, I don't know if I'd want to be the very first anyway. Let other people get experience with it for a couple of months first.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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It's not just age range, it's individual health, down to the specific person, not a group. Also you have to multiply the risk by the chance that you will actually contract Covid-19, which is very dependent on lifestyle etc. I'm not trying to talk you personally out of getting the vaccine, I don't think it will turn you into a zombie or some foolishness. I'm just asking you to understand that it is a rational decision…

If you live in the US or in Europe, I don't think the chance to contract COVID-19 is low enough to get anywhere close to where you could make that kind of argument. We're really good at developing vaccines, and they're a category of drugs that is by far the most sensitive to any kind of side effect. This disease is dangerous enough and also widespread enough that I don't see any plausible argument that would make the…

It's not the age of somebody that determines how the virus reacts. The statistics you're referencing categorize age as a proxy for some real-world vulnerabilities that vary in significance by age. That is, worse outcomes due to Covid exposure tend to be more prevalent as age advances.

But that says absolutely zero about any single individual. Each individual, regardless of age group, can have more or less susceptibility than their age group. It is an _individual's_ health and other risk factors that decide the outcome for that individual -- not their membership in an age category. Therefore, each individual must decide their own risk tolerance and remediation plan.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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You mean the admin that encouraged people not to wear masks? The one that downplayed the virus at every opportunity? The one that held rallies without masks required, but still had people sign waivers in case they got sick? Is it that one, or some other administration you’re thinking of?

You have a good counter. To add to "don't wear masks" though - WHO, CDC, Fauci all had poor and inaccurate guidance as well. It's like none of these experts have sane defaults when they don't know about something. Kind of hard to believe, really. Then when they're wrong - they say "oh yeah we lied, we didn't want a run on masks for health workers". Such BS. They didn't know non-surgical/non-(k)n95 masks could be usef…

The CDC officially recommended the use of face masks in public places on April 3.

That was forever ago and only a few weeks into the US crises(couple weeks after first lockdowns started). There absolutely was a PPE shortage at the time, and there absolutely was new information coming in about the efficacy of wearing non N95 masks. That's a lot of attribution to malice or incompetence for such a dynamic situation that shaped up in such a relatively short amount of time..

Meanwhile the current admin had their last maskless rally what, just in the past week or so?

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#769
Other than helping yourself and others being vaccinated also means you don't get hit by the full force of a virus. Not just covid but the damage done by any virus is lessened after being vaccinated. Even if you do happen to get infected even after being vaccinated (which is still possible). A full strength virus from the wild versus being infected after being vaccinated is quite different.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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If they know it’s spreadable without symptoms, unfortunate, as is is, there’s a level of fault. Stupid is not a term I would use, though. Mingling with other people at a similar comfort level of contract Covid - that’s just adults being adults. That’s freedom. But if those people then go to unavoidable places like grocery stores, they’re putting people at risk who don’t have much of a choice.

Is there not home delivery where you live?

Many people can't afford the extra cost of home delivery. And there isn't nearly enough home delivery capacity to support every shopper.
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