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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by jamroom »

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #731
overcast wrote: post #326

Ugh. I don't know what to do here. I've been waiting for Mac updates for ages, and this is what we get. My 2008 Mac Pro is maxed out on upgrades, and has been on the fritz lately. I can't go forever on an 8+ year old machine. Especially one that is no longer "officially supported" by Apple, and now requires 3rd party patches to install Sierra and its updates. Microsoft's Surface presentation yesterday was VERY tempti…

I'm in the same boat. I have an 8 year old Macbook Unibody. Maxed out RAM to 8GB (officially supports 6 GB but there was a way to utilize 8 GB), have replaced HDD with a 256 SSD, replaced the battery once (sadly now can't do so again, they don't make it), replaced power adapter twice. I was looking forward to this event, this is the first year I cannot upgrade to the latest OS X without hacking around. I am ready to…

I also have a 2008 unibody aluminum MacBook - just an FYI you can still get new batteries for it:

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple_laptop/batteries/MacBo...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by angryasian »

pkulak wrote: post #712
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

What's the best laptop for Linux these days? It's been over a decade for me since I touched one. Will I still need to mess with xorg.conf every second week?

no if you go with the laptop most are already configured for you and nvidia and ati support is much improved. You can do everything with the gui.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Philipp__ »

Oh God, I miss Steve so much. I remember the time when Apple conference was a real event, everybody would watch, and second it was done we would call and talk for hours about it. Now after 10+ years at Apple camp, I am afraid that this machine I bought 9 months ago might be my last if something doesn't change in next few years. And I fear nothing will change, because Cook is leading this company by profit and numbers, and he is doing great! But that is what killed Apple many, many years ago. And worst of all, I do not see anyone who can fill the shoes Apple had 5-10 years ago.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by billconan »

throwanem wrote: post #324
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

> Microsoft introduced a 28" desktop PC No. Microsoft introduced an entirely new kind of tool for digital artists. I'm not one myself, but the Surface Studio makes me wish I were. And the people I know who are, are over the moon about it. They can't wait to get their hands on one. Yes, it's Microsoft that hit it out of the park, and made Apple look amazingly weak by comparison. Today's event wouldn't have been partic…

I purchased surface pro 3 for drawing. so disappointed. I don't want to try again.

if they are serious about art creation, they should only use wacom technology and nobody else.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by yabatopia »

Shivetya wrote: post #684
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

I think the touch bar is just horrid, its a step backwards if not simply a declaration of being out of touch. Who looks at their keyboard anymore? For a company with so many touch oriented devices the last thing they needed is an extension of the keyboard

I don't think it's that bad. I can definitely see the benefits for different applications.

However, watching the presentation at times the touch bar felt like an elaborate workaround for a full-blown touchscreen. Especially during the dj demo.

And with the Microsoft Puck for the Surface Studio still in the back of your head, the touch bar for Photoshop or video editing looked a bit outdated.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by plingamp »

swang wrote: post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

I have a old Chromebook that I am using as my primary dev machine (at home). Was hoping to upgrade it to a MBP, but now i'm not sure. I know they are two different classes of machines, but what really struck me in that I can literally buy 10 Chromebooks for 1 MBP.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by astockwell »

Sgt_Apone wrote: post #400
nkw wrote: post #164

Wow. I hate to say it, but I thought the products in Microsoft's event yesterday were way more exciting than anything from Apple lately. This plus macOS Sierra seems like a whole lot of "meh". This coming from a guy whose first computer was an Apple IIe, who owned a Mac Cube, and whose daily driver is a trashcan MacPro.

Completely agreed. Speaking of Microsoft, I wonder how the touch bar will operate in Boot Camp. I would hope that they'll at least leave the default F keys on there.

Or VMWare for that matter.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by djsumdog »

dmitriid wrote: post #656
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

Professionals use desktops. You cannot seriously expect anyone edit a 4k video on a laptop with 16 GB or RAM, no matter how hard Apple is pushing their ridiculous onstage demos. You cannot seriously expect serious developers run multiple VMs, for example, on 16 GB RAM on a laptop. The list goes on and on.

For 11 months when I was backpacking, I did all my development on a laptop with 16GB of ram:

http://penguindreams.org/blog/msi-ws60-running-linux/

Scala development, and some devs ops stuff that required spinning up VMs. I mean not a lot; like 6 ~ 8.

At work, I use a 16GB ram laptop, Scala development an no VMs (we do everything in Docker and deploy to Mesos/Marathon).

I do have a desktop at home now with 32GB of ram, but it honestly feels like overkill and I may scale down. There is a lot of dev work that does require a pretty beefy workstation, but I've been doing HD video editing, Photoshop/Lightroom and Scala/Java work on laptops for years.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by sumitgt »

rwhitman wrote: post #511
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I get the sense that there is a movement inside Apple right now to abandon the professional market. Everything they've released lately for pros has been half-hearted at best. I'm getting increasingly concerned that one day soon they will drop Mac OS products altogether and just leave us to the wolves

The fact that we did not get a new Mac Mini or Mac Pro should be a good hint at which direction things are headed.
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