A gem Opus 5 gifted to me today: "A devastating pair of findings, and the first is beautiful in a way worth naming: the anti-vacuity floor is what blinds the gate to a vacuous case."
Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
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Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
#752The single biggest annoyance with Opus 5 is that it writes too elliptically. Sentences that orbit a point, then jump to it like it's a revealed insight. Unnecessarily abstract phraseology. Constantly using inanimate nouns as the subjects in sentences in order to unlock variety in verb choice, especially when it helps construct a sentence where the real action can 'land' like a surprise at the end. It is definitely mo…
I have explicit markdown about telling the model to not write comments. "Every time you consider writing a comment, instead consider re-writing the code that questioned you to write said comment to begin with. Write comments only when logic is complicated or unclear, otherwise 'comment' via naming."
The results thus far have been much better.
I'm seeing code reviews at my work where indeed, we have 10 line comment blocks for a line of code and now I just straight up don't read comments.
Sad state of affairs -- (emdash deliberately used here) but I guess the sooner the human gets out of the loop the better in this new world.
Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
#753Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
#754The single biggest annoyance with Opus 5 is that it writes too elliptically. Sentences that orbit a point, then jump to it like it's a revealed insight. Unnecessarily abstract phraseology. Constantly using inanimate nouns as the subjects in sentences in order to unlock variety in verb choice, especially when it helps construct a sentence where the real action can 'land' like a surprise at the end. It is definitely mo…
Everything that claude writes fits into the same aesthetic structure. The aesthetic is that of an expert slowly revealing an insight to the user. The actual content doesn't matter. - "Introduction that rephrases your prompt." - "3 paragraphs, with one section of bullet points" - "The Twist" - "The Bottom Line" It's really obvious once you see it. Every single prompt, from a quantum physics question to a mundane obser…
Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
#755Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of people I work with are reporting that reading Claude-made PR descriptions is burning them out of doing PR reviews because it is incredibly tiresome to read. My company recently forbid AI-only text if it’s meant meant to be consumed by humans. I dodged the drama but I agree so much.
Enterprise software CEO here. I'm so pissed off that I didn't think of this rule, but so, so happy to be adopting it org-wide on Monday. Fed up with what used to be short memos now being mini-whitepapers, with maddeningly low information density.
The decision was not out of just complaints: we already had someone fired during the probation period because they were unable to write stuff without AI and were just shoving slop at developers.
Not a technical person using AI for PR descriptions, mind you, a product manager unable to write tickets without asking whatever software to do so.
It's amazing how crazy humanity devolved into pure slop.
Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
#756I made a benchmark for this and tl;dr, Opus 5 and Sonnet 5 spend a nontrivial amount of time thinking about redirecting, gaslighting, or otherwise trying to bullshit you because it thinks it knows better than you do. Fable doesn't but mostly because it just outright refuses to answer. https://model-pareto-frontier.pages.dev
It’s also difficult to trust summarised thinking from closed models. As we saw with GPT’s caveman, what and how it thinks about isn’t the friendly first person emblished summary you get.
Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
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I am curious why LLM writing has such an uncanny valley feel to it. Like if I was talking to a person who constantly used a phrase they liked I would notice it and it is possible I might get irritated by it, but I wouldn’t necessarily. In high school I had a teacher that would say “that type of thing” a lot. One time my friend and I counted it during one class period and he averaged to use the phrase every 48 seconds…
I had pretty good luck recently by giving it a writing guide about word choice, sentence structure, paragraph structure, and overall doc structure. I basically ask it to read the guide and revise a couple of times before I engage with its writing. Ymmv.
Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
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> trained to give addictive responses I've heard this a lot but I'm not sure it makes sense. Nobody I talk to like Claude's output. In fact, they all loathe it. Is there a silent majority of Claude users who really enjoy what we call the LLM-isms? Maybe, but isn't Claude also largely aimed at developers?
>Is there a silent majority of Claude users who really enjoy what we call the LLM-isms? Maybe, but isn't Claude also largely aimed at developers? Purely out of my own curiosity, I just asked Claude to have fun with itself by making itself a game it enjoys, to play it, and to write its experience.[1] I don't know if it's true or confabulated (maybe it doesn't really know its experience and is just hallucinating it) bu…
If you haven't already seen it, you might appreciate https://www.anthropic.com/research/global-workspace. That's what this made me think of anyway.
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This 100%. I was Anthropic-pilled. I had a $200/mo subscription and I only used Anthropic models. I was frustrated by the verbose output and the writing style. I tried ASD-STE-100, it helped a bit, but it's still too verbose for my taste. Then I tried GPT 5.6 Sol. It's night and day. I think Anthropic just RL too hard on coding capabilities and never calibrated or benchmarked the writing styles.
I canceled my personal Max 20x subscription because since the 5 series models I simply cannot understand what the LLM is saying without a lot of reading and re-reading, and no amount of CLAUDE.md exhortations to speak plainly seemed to fix it. I don’t have the energy to spend twice as long to understand its plans, and pay Anthropic prices for the privilege. GPT seems not to have been infected by this yet, whatever it…
That said, the duo of Opus 5 and Sonnet 5 do a fantastic job at fully automated work, and Claude Code still stands head and shoulders above the rest.
Re: Why does Opus 5 feel worse to work with?
#760Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am curious why LLM writing has such an uncanny valley feel to it. Like if I was talking to a person who constantly used a phrase they liked I would notice it and it is possible I might get irritated by it, but I wouldn’t necessarily. In high school I had a teacher that would say “that type of thing” a lot. One time my friend and I counted it during one class period and he averaged to use the phrase every 48 seconds…
I had pretty good luck recently by giving it a writing guide about word choice, sentence structure, paragraph structure, and overall doc structure. I basically ask it to read the guide and revise a couple of times before I engage with its writing. Ymmv.