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CarPlay Is Additive

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Imagine if customers demanded MacBooks boot into Android when an android phone was connected . The cars primary UI is the screen. Car Clay defers the cars experience to Apple . Customers have been demanding CarPlay because most car UIs are poor. But if done properly, they can exceed CarPlay while being consistent and well integrated

Imagine a new popular music streaming service (Tidal?) came out tomorrow - when will it be supported on your phone? When will your car support it, if ever?

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

#752

What the auto industry should have really woken up to is the idea of a singular carplay for both android and ios. I have a 2021 BMW that only supported carplay and was fine for many years. It is wireless even. I love it. But now i have a pixel.

You could try a wireless adapter that will convert Android Auto to CarPlay.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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> I simply will not buy a car that won't easily accept a double DIN head unit. Are those even a thing anymore? The vast majority of new cars have some sort of custom all-in-one dashboard display.

I don't know or care if "it's a thing anymore", there's an inexhaustible supply of existing cars with double DIN. My Subaru from 2017 has double DIN and I don't see any reason to own a more modern car than that.

When that car and any replacement are 20 years old you might see the point.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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As an Apple fanboy I have to say I’ve never been impressed with CarPlay. I’ve used it in rentals quite a bit but have found it generally infuriating. Primary reason is the map. On the Tesla you have this beautiful map that you can pan around and pinch zoom in and out of. On the versions of CarPlay that I’ve used, you can this minimal map that can’t be pinch zoomed. Seems like you have to tap the pan buttons by hand t…

You shouldn’t be panning or pinch to zoom, etc while driving. You should be following a route which you can setup with your phone.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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This is part of a broader trend I see in all consumer markets: especially in markets with just a few large important players: the companies start making very unpopular moves in the hopes that their competitors will realize the massive profit potential and follow them out of greed rather than try to steal customers by being the good guys. Examples: self-ordering kiosks at restaurants, every change made at every airlin…

Aviation is an incredibly low-margin business - airlines are less trying to earn "massive profits" and more just trying to continue to operate year over year

Fair enough, it would be more accurate to simply say significant increases in the bottom line. Certainly possible that it simply moves from massively negative to less negative, like American Airlines. It still makes a big difference to them all the same.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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They’re working on it. I follow a mechanic on YouTube who has shared dozens of examples of manufacturers seemingly intentionally shipping deeply flawed components for seemingly no reason other than to push the average lifespan of a vehicle back downwards from the high levels we’d reached by about 2012. Cars are being junked with less than 100k miles because the original parts fail, replacement parts are hard to get,…

Care to name the mechanic on YouTube?

Yeah, he has the handle @justcallmeeddie1

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Your thesis is right but in this example this is instead one of the “Alan Dye” hidden UI instances where the functionality is intentionally hidden (I presume in the name of aesthetic minimalism rather than safety, because this is what Apple design does outside CarPlay too). At least in Apple Music, I think you tap on the artist name in the now playing screen, and I think you get a menu to go to album or artist from t…

You can verify from my comment history that I love talking shit about Mr Dye as much as the next guy, but no. Car Play limitations are certainly not an Alan Dye decision. Everything in CarPlay is stripped down cause it's not safe to be navigating menus and doing deep interactions while driving. The passenger can use the phone if you want to be able to scroll through an artist's catalog, rearrange playlists, etc. CarP…

I didn’t mean it like that. I’m fine with most of the “omissions” on CarPlay (though CarPlay isn’t perfect and has regressed - the Maps UI changes in the past 5-7 years with the disappearing controls and the menus that require a tap, move 6 inches, and tap again, are garbage). I only meant that you can jump to an artist, it’s just hidden, so it’s not one of those things that’s truly being omitted for safety’s sake. That one’s there, but just undiscoverable (because Alan Dye is a clown).

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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I was super bought into carplay and android auto until I actually owned a car that had it. Oh great, it requires USB. Well my phone is 4 years old and the port is toast, so that doesn't work for me. Okay, wireless then. Car doesn't support that. Lovely. Bluetooth implementation is half-assed and the pairing process is Byzantine. Terrific stuff. That car ended up sucking in other ways too. I quickly sold it and went b…

That take is stupid - I tried to use a feature with broken equipment so it must be the feature’s fault it didn’t work.

I've used it in other cars and the experience just wasn't great. I've had plenty of rentals with Android Auto.

Honda is the worst. In two different Hondas, I had to make sure I didn't plug my phone into the blessed USB port to charge, otherwise the wireless AA connection would drop 20 minutes into the drive and I'd have to re-pair manually. And wireless would crap out every hour or so.

Mazda was wired-only, which was fine since my phone was new at the time. But Android Auto was clearly not designed for Mazda's otherwise very good non-touchscreen HMI.

Both Hyundai/Kias I've rented took a solid 90 seconds to pair every time I got in the car.

In a Chevy I rented, it would either pair up instantly and work perfectly or it wouldn't pair at all, depending on the alignment of the stars or something.

BMW's implementation worked great, too bad the rest of the controls in a modern BMW are idiotic. And also I can't afford one.

I've had several Toyota/Lexus loaner cars. Those worked fine, to my recollection.

Maybe I'm cursed, but at this point I don't particularly care. My real, honest-to-god experience with smartphone connectivity in cars is this: the most reliable, user-friendly, brand-agnostic experience is a bluetooth adapter shoved in the cigarette lighter, and a phone holder on the dash.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW, which has excellent navigation integration with a HUD. Recently, they announced that my vehicle would receive map and software updates, for basically as long as the included modem was functional. My vehicle doesn't support the carplay to hud stuff, but that's okay. The thing is... when my car stops getting map and traffic updates, I will still be able to switch to carplay for…

> I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW Why not just name the brand?

because the infotainment system and drivetrain isn't by that brand (which is toyota). the vehicle is, for most intents and purposes, a bmw.
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