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Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by 0xy »

probably_wrong wrote: post #230
0xy wrote: post #169

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> Incendiary and false headline aside The text of the bill literally starts with "Creates the A.I. Safety Act. Provides that a developer of a frontier AI model shall not be held liable for critical harms caused by the frontier model if (conditions)", and defines "critical harms" as "death or serious injury of 100 or more people or at least $1,000,000,000 of damages". The headline is, IMO, shockingly accurate. > Is To…

The headline is completely false and misleading. The bill does not indemnify AI companies from all mass murder as it implies. It indemnifies them if they UNKNOWINGLY provide a product that is used by others for mass murder.

If someone asks ChatGPT for places where a lot of people will be around in a city, intending to mass murder but not revealing as such, you want them to be liable? Seems absolutely crazy.

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Post by 0xy »

goku12 wrote: post #551
0xy wrote: post #169

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All of those are false equivalences. Let me give you a few better analogies. Selling an axe that's known to be so defective that it breaks upon use and impales anybody nearby. Even worse, it is sold as great for axe murders. Or a big tech company like Microsoft selling a software for planning a mass murder, including indoctrination material and the checklists of things to be done. Or an auto company like Toyota selli…

>Selling an axe that's known to be so defective that it breaks upon use and impales anybody nearby. Even worse, it is sold as great for axe murders.

Please provide ChatGPT/Gemini marketing materials advertising it as good for mass killings.

Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by pixel_popping »

dang wrote: post #575

I don't think I've ever seen a thread this bad on Hacker News*. The number of commenters justifying violence, or saying they "don't condone violence" and then doing exactly that, is sickening and makes me want to find something else to do with my life—something as far away from this as I can get. I feel ashamed of this community. * Edit: It would have been clearer to say "I've never seen a mob dynamic this bad on Hac…

HN has literally turned into a political cesspool lately

Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by sbarre »

bdangubic wrote: post #716
sbarre wrote: post #468

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You must sure live in a bubble.. Do you think ChatGPT has changed things for the majority of people who live on this planet? It has not.

perhaps I live in a blue collar bubble but I do not know a single person in my personal and professional circle whose lives haven’t significantly changed with AI. just this week I helped three families setup https://github.com/mimurchison/claude-chief-of-staff because one family set it up. prompts are being shared like bread recipes during C19

I'm sorry I don't think automating your email and calendar is "changing your life significantly".. maybe that's just me.

I'm not denying AI is a great productivity tool, it really is!

But "changing the world" is like... electricity, or clean water, or radio.. things that anyone and everyone can set up and access for themselves.

Not a pay-as-you-go service that you (or most people) can only get from 3 for-profit companies who will only be raising the prices and walling up their gardens as times goes on.

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Post by guzfip »

No peace for grifters. Flush them out of the country.

And I mean all of them, left wing, right wing, corporate. I am sick of every level of power in the country being filled with lying grifters. I don’t care what happens to them, as long as they’re gone.

I feel like I’m living in a circus.

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Post by 0xy »

saintfire wrote: post #347
0xy wrote: post #169

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People championing the absolution of billionaires who create a chatbot that can't spell strawberry who then say it should be allowed to choose who lives and dies wasn't what I expected at the turn of the decade. Beautiful.

This can only be an intentional misreading the bill, or you haven't read the underlying bill at all. Because the headline is patently false. It indemnifies them ONLY if they unknowingly assist in mass murder.

If someone asks ChatGPT "hey chatgpt, where are spots in my city where a lot of people hang out on the street", then uses his car to mass murder 18 people, you want OpenAI to be on the stand? Sounds like an objectively insane position.

In a world with broad liability as you desire, the person who rented a hostel room to Luigi Mangione while he plotted murder should be held liable for aiding him, despite knowing nothing of his intentions.

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Post by ChoGGi »

Well Sam, you should take your family and your billions and fuck off to some island paradise.

Or keep on doing deals with the DoD and pushing to replace desperate people's jobs.

Cute kid, I'd rather be raising my family in peace then dealing with what you deal with.

@dang You have a bullshit filled unrelenting job, thanks for doing it.

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Post by y0eswddl »

dsa3a wrote: post #184
onemoresoop wrote: post #180

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How about the economic impact of all the over investments in AI? It’ll all be dumped on us all Im afraid.

Thats a separate issue. lets stick to the issue re. labour

what do you think is going to happen to the general laborer market when all that money goes bye-bye?

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Post by voidhorse »

dang wrote: post #580
voidhorse wrote: post #437

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> I hope the worst for sam and his family. WTF? You can't post this viciously to HN, no matter who it is you're being vicious towards. Normally I would ban any account that posted like this, but this thread is a mob and mobs have a deranging effect on people. So I'm going to cut you some slack and not ban you. Just please don't do anything like this on HN again.

Thanks, dang, I appreciate the slack. I let emotion get the better of me in the moment, and I'll refrain from that in the future.
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