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Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aeropress is a brand, one I've never heard of. It fits in the Linux ecosystem (maybe as one of the Red Hat flavors?) but as an analogy it is simplified. Linux is so much bigger than that and there's everything from LFS (grow, grind and brew with tools you've sourced and put together yourself), to Android (plain old drip machine). Reducing everything that's the Linux ecosystem to a niche brand of a specific type of co…

I am too lazy and not enough of a snob to write several paragraphs on why Aeropress is objectively better and different from French Press, but it is, and I hope someone can step up and do that here.

That's not the point, unless you're trying to tell me you're using Apple products and I'm putting the Aeropress in the wrong category?

/s

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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For a normal User I think Linux has been almost perfect for decades. For Games Windows still had some advantage. But for developing software I really didn't like Linux. The windows API is very stable. In Linux constantly new problems showed up. E.g. some window-manager suddenly started stealing my focus, just because it wants to have the focus on an irrelevant Edit-Field somewhere... If Linux wants to be the standard I think it should have a stable Api first. And I don't have much hope in Gnome and KDE doing anything like that.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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The problem is that on Windows or your typical Linux distro "how much you trust" needs to be "with full access to all of the information on my computer, including any online accounts I access through that computer". This is very much unlike Android, for example, where all apps are sandboxed by default. That's a pretty high bar, I don't blame your friend at all for being skeptical.

Right, which goes back to the main point; "total control of your computing environment" fundamentally means that you are responsible for figuring out which applications to trust, based on your own choice of heuristics (FOSS? # of downloads/Github stars? Project age? Reputation of maintainers and file host? etc...) Many, maybe most people don't actually want to do this, and would much rather outsource that determinati…

> Right, which goes back to the main point; "total control of your computing environment" fundamentally means that you are responsible for figuring out which applications to trust, based on your own choice of heuristics

Hard disagree. Total control of my computing environment would be to allow an application access to my documents, a space to save a configuration, perhaps my Videos folder or even certain files in that folder. Or conversely, not.

At the moment, none of the desktops give me the ability to set a level of trust for an application. I can't execute Dr. Robotniks Ring Run (or whatever the example was) and be able to specify what it can, or cannot access. There may be a request for permission at a system level access, but that could be explained away as usually is for iApps and Android when requesting some scary sounding permission groups.

And it also doesn't stop malware from accessing my documents. Sometimes my Mac asks if an application is allowed to access Documents, but it isn't consistent.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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I have been running desktop Linux for a very long time, but I actually agree. There's a lot of rough edges. I do think a lot of these problems do go away if you are a bit proactive in choosing compatible hardware. I bought my mother in law a laptop for Christmas, and I put Linux Mint on there [1]. There were no issues getting it working on Mint with Cinnamon, but that's in no small part because I double checked all t…

How do you check the hardware is compatible in practice? Is there some reliable resource for doing this?

https://linux-hardware.org/ is useful for this.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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This was, still is and for the foreseeable future it'll be bad advice. Stay on Windows 10 as long as you can. With LTSC IoT that's 2032. We will figure out something then. It doesn't work. Right now the main issue is Wayland vs X where Wayland is not working and will never work because the underlying ideas and goals do not align with that of a desktop. Someone described X as ALSA, Wayland as PulseAudio and we are wai…

Is the IoT version of Windows 10 a full desktop? I tried it on my Raspberry Pi when it was released for free but I didn't get past booting. I dropped it because I didn't understand what it was, or what I was supposed to do with it and I wasn't curious enough to find out. This is your suggestion for my grandmother over some simple Linux distro with a browser?

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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I dislike what Microsoft is doing to Windows as much as the next guy but if you get Windows Pro and disable all the icky stuff it is a rock solid OS that just works. Sure, once a year an update might add some new icky stuff but then you just spend 10 minutes to find out how to disable that and go about your business. It. Just. Works.

Windows is prone to getting malware and ransomware. When you buy a new Macbook, you can use the Migration Assistant to move all your apps and files to the new Mac. With Windows there's no easy way. On Mac, apps are almost always safe and not going to crap up your computer. With Windows you have to be wary. Windows usually comes with bloatware, Mac doesn't. Windows you have to manage and install drivers and always upd…

What the hell are you doing to get malware? I have never had a virus ever. And I only keep Windows Defender running in the background. Though I doubt I'd even need that. Bloatware – yes. Uninstall it once and it's gone. Once or twice a year a new thing might pop up. Uninstall that and be done with it. Do you really have to manage drivers or is that just on old wives' tale? I sure as hell don't manage drivers. Windows Update will install any driver I need automatically. Only driver I upgrade manually is GPU a couple times a year when there is a new game that can take advantage of it. Really, that whole driver story is just a bunch of lies since at least Windows 10.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

#758

This was, still is and for the foreseeable future it'll be bad advice. Stay on Windows 10 as long as you can. With LTSC IoT that's 2032. We will figure out something then. It doesn't work. Right now the main issue is Wayland vs X where Wayland is not working and will never work because the underlying ideas and goals do not align with that of a desktop. Someone described X as ALSA, Wayland as PulseAudio and we are wai…

>Wayland is not working What's your source on that? I have been using it for years. Skill issue?

I'm still on X because I'm too comfortable with dwm and I've never had problems with Wayland the few times I've tried KDE/Gnome. That said blaming the user for lacking skill for basic stuff like copy/paste between applications or screen sharing isn't constructive. Those features should just work and shouldn't require skill. Building a niche window manager from source is a different discussion.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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It’s worth acknowledging the real challenges raised in this thread: desktop Linux still has rough edges for some use cases, hardware support isn’t always perfect, and niche professional software may lack native support or require workarounds. But these obstacles are not intrinsic technical limitations so much as ecosystem and investment gaps, areas where community projects, standards efforts, and wider adoption could…

Desktop Windows still has rough edges. Desktop MacOS still has rough edges. Desktop Linux still has rough edges. Pick your poison. Niche professional software may lack native Windows support or require workarounds. Windows has a strong grip in enterprise environments where it is desirable to remove desktop control from users. You have things like FreeIPA and Samba making weak offers beyond directory services in that…

AFAIK the grip is because migration costs money, see Schleswig-Holstein story.
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