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Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by nananana9 »

Tepix wrote: post #722
mmh0000 wrote: post #251

I am shaken to my core (sorry, wife hates that phrase, so I have to use it everywhere) at how many posters here see ads. I'm of the opinion that if you're seeing ads on your hardware, which you paid for, your computer is broken. That advertisements are always evil, always wrong, and never morally just. And everything possible should be done to avoid, remove, or deface them. To that end: Andriod: - Root your damn phon…

You paid for your hardware. But did you pay for all the services you use (like search engines, games, mail, other services)? If not, how do you think they should make money? (I don't like ads myself).

> If not, how do you think they should make money?

Figure it out or go bankrupt, for all I care. They're the ones who chose a business model directly adversarial to their users.

Plenty of games, mail and other services work without ads already, I'm sure if we're one day lucky enough to see Google go belly up someone will fill that hole as well.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by red-iron-pine »

latexr wrote: post #578
Tanoc wrote: post #502

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This seems like innately hostile behaviour. Not to other video creators, but to his audience. Stripping as much as he can using data and mathematics is the kind of thing engineers do to pull more out of a machine, not something you do when you're creating informal communications to other humans.

> when you're creating informal communications to other humans. What he’s creating is fame and money for himself, the fact that it’s by doing videos is incidental. That’s why he also got into ghost kitchens, a game show full of corner cutting, and a theme park in Saudi Arabia open for under two months.

in other words his business model is fuck you pay me

at least 50 cent, who got into rap strictly for the money, made something fairly entertaining

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by nananana9 »

suriya-ganesh wrote: post #663
kibwen wrote: post #416

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> But how is the internet economy supposed to function If the existence of a given industry requires the annihilation of individual privacy and the elimination of free thought, then that industry does not deserve to exist. Kill the ad industry.

And in the process kill all the possibilities the internet has empowered? Medicine being better delivered, all the research that has been accelerated because of reducing compute and storage costs, the list is infinite.

You will need to provide stronger justification how "medicine being delivered" hinges upon me watching a 60 second unskippable ad before a YouTube video.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by red-iron-pine »

kotaKat wrote: post #705
jb1991 wrote: post #699

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How do you A/B test on YouTube?

Youtube lets you A/B test thumbnails as a creator and see response rates, for instance. https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/393332200/you-can-...

posted 12/8/2025, 11:24:26 AM

So like a month ago. How did Beast A/B test before then?

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by red-iron-pine »

Hendrikto wrote: post #716
climb_stealth wrote: post #444

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Luckily the recommendation system does work to some extent. I'm glad I don't get to see any of that stuff on my youtube. Opening the front page in a private view is a scary place of hyper-optimised drama and attention seeking. It's scary imagining people getting sucked into that :/

It used to be very good, but now the personalized recommendations kind of suck. Seems like they enormously regressed, and basically do the 2009 move of just shoving the last type of video you watched in your face 37 times.

ahhh and i thought it was just me. cancelled my subscription and figured YT was just not caring anymore as a way to drag me back.

nah turns out it sucks for everyone.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by red-iron-pine »

drcongo wrote: post #197
xoxxala wrote: post #72

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Mr. Beast on youtube is guilty of that. Matt Parker of Standup Maths fame did an in-depth look at how that works. Whoever came up with that type of progress bar must hate people in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0OU1yJD-c

Not the only thing he's guilty of.

explain

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by red-iron-pine »

transcriptase wrote: post #622
mbirth wrote: post #378

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> The whole industry runs on scams like this Wasn’t there an article here a few days ago about Facebook specialising in hiding such malicious ads from testers and law enforcement to maximise gains?

Yes. Basically the internet version of the Volkswagen emissions scandal. if(testdetected == 1) ecm.lowemissions else lmao.fuckyouregulators

the difference is that the average rube and/or average lawmaker have some basic understanding of how cars work.

petrol goes in, toxic gas comes out, so make toxic gas less.

most of them have 0% understanding as to how data mining works or how online ads (and scams) function

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by intended »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #754
kotaKat wrote: post #705

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Youtube lets you A/B test thumbnails as a creator and see response rates, for instance. https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/393332200/you-can-...

posted 12/8/2025, 11:24:26 AM So like a month ago. How did Beast A/B test before then?

Hasn't this been around for ages?

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by kotaKat »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #754
kotaKat wrote: post #705

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Youtube lets you A/B test thumbnails as a creator and see response rates, for instance. https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/393332200/you-can-...

posted 12/8/2025, 11:24:26 AM So like a month ago. How did Beast A/B test before then?

They give access to these features to their partners before general release, but this A/B feature has existed for quite some time now. I’ve seen various Patreon tech creators run those A/B tests and see them discuss them in their creator Discords.

Re: Vietnam bans unskippable ads

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Post by Forbo »

pc86 wrote: post #424
lloeki wrote: post #208

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You missed one of the worst: mandatory interactive ones. My wife is a sucker for these horribly generic flashy F2P puzzle-ish games. There are these ads that pop up every N action or something; some of these look like a mini-game and are actually an ad for another of those F2P games, and you have to play the mini-game that showcases some dumb simple mechanic of the game it advertises for a little bit before you can d…

Some of these ads are annoying, almost all of the them are dumb, but if you think they're abusive , I don't think you know what the word abuse means.

If you don't think lying/tricking/manipulating people is abusive, then you might want to reflect on that.
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