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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Are you sure it’s _people_ driving this increase? Dead internet theory means real users are declining while bot users are skyrocketing. For example google search is such a terrible experience these days that I’ll often ask an LLM instead. That LLM may do multiple google and other searches on my behalf, combine, collate and present me with just the information I am looking for, bypassing the search experience entirely…

> Are you sure it’s _people_ driving this increase? Most likely - yes. If Google has been dead for years people wouldn't pour hundreds of billions of dollars into ads there. The Search revenue keeps increasing, even since ChatGPT showed up. It might stagnate soon or even decrease a bit - but "death" ? The numbers don't back this up. One blog saying he stops paying for Google ads conflicts with the reality of around 2…

Exactly this. Businesses decide whether to pay for ads based on clickthru rates and conversions. Bots don't click through. They don't convert. If these rates fall, advertisers will pay proportionally less as their max bid, and Search ads revenue will fall substantially.

That hasn't happened. Google continues to grow with real users.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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> The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. Lifelong hockey fan, I never understood this complaint. I believe it was FOX that did the 'highlight the puck' thing for a few years in the 1990's. You can't see the ball in American football, either. But you don't need to. The guy that's running and everyone is trying to tackle? He has the ball. Just like th…

You're right - it was called FoxTrax, it's a fairly interesting piece of engineering. It's pretty wild they were able to convince the NHL to use a modified puck with a battery and PCB inside, all so American viewers could better follow the action. It was not well received in Canada :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoxTrax

Well, the current puck still has emitters inside of it.

> [1] Puck and Player Tracking became fully operational in 2021-22, with up to 20 cameras in each arena and infrared emitters in each puck and sweater.

The player tracking is fairly easy to see; there's often an airtag sized bump on a player's jersey.

The puck tracking can be a bit more difficult but sometimes the puck looks like it's melting the ice behind it. That's just them giving it a grey shadow instead of the neon shadow.

[1]: https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-edge-launches-website-for-puck-...

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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> ...vertical, shortform video. Not sure how that plays out in terms of advertising... I have seen a comment about them being terrible for advertising, it looks like a "good" idea but it is not. The problem is that the attention of people watching these videos drop to almost zero, too much is happening in a too short amount of time, and as a result nothing is remembered, including the ads. It is a very good deal for…

For sure, I've been hesitantly awaiting ChatGPT's first "sponsored" reply, or at least, one that features a "sponsored" product or link.

Viber already does something similar, by catching on a keyword in your reply and splashing an ad.

E.g., around here, "happy holidays" would splash an ad for Jacobs coffee.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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You could argue (it certainly has been argued) that the ability for technology to dissolve the usually more coherent identities that we take on daily by granting unlimited role play, trolling, and exploration is simply too much for a lot of people, and makes it hard to maintain a coherent sense of self. This is especially true of people who are “internet addicts” - not that the designation means a whole lot as I’m he…

There's also the inconvenient truth that a very specific part of the world was online in the 1990s. Primarily more educated, more liberal, more wealthy. Turns out, when you hook the rest of the planet online, you get mass persuasion campaigns, fake genocide "reporting", and enough of an increase in ambient noise that coherent anonymous discourse becomes impossible. I mean, look at the comments on Fox News or politica…

It's still possible in smaller, constructive communities, not in large general-purpose social networks.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Shockingly, I did not consider malicious intent as a possible reason. I will look into it. Never did trust the partner networks though, it's not that anyway, just used plain old search network

I tried to visit your website to get a better idea, but found `Connection timed out Error code 522` by Cloudflare.

It's fine now, somehow got to #1 on Hacker News and 1000's of visitors did that. Learned something new about Cloudflare Cache Settings, it won't happen again

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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I recently took someone to go and watch a hockey game. Been a little while but I personally played as a goalie myself. The person kept making the comment that she couldn't see/find the puck and it made it frustrating to watch. As a goalie, not being able to see the puck is pretty normal (especially with big bodies trying to screen you). What I told her was that what matters a lot more than where the puck is, is where…

> Look where everyone is looking

In other words, Google. Google search grows every year despite people are dead sure it's "dead."

[0]: https://sparktoro.com/blog/new-research-google-search-grew-2...

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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> American football handegg*

Also: basketball -> handball hockey -> stickball volleyball -> handball rugby -> handegg baseball -> stickball cricket -> stickball golf -> stickball Hopefully this will finally appease the football literalists and make things simpler for you all to understand :)

Handball’s already taken though.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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I'm not a marketer (anymore), but as an end user, I feel that Google has shot themselves in the foot with the horrendous search experience they provide these days. This notion and topic of discussion is becoming more commonplace online.

"Google results are just AI and sponsored content anymore." We've all seen it.

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