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> clearly ai chatbots are better suited for that than the old web of google search Why is this clearly the case?

if you think about it, the current advertising paradigm infers things about you, from cookies and trackers, from data brokers etc (to show you “relevant” ads. and things you “like” or “follow” or comment on , or maybe even just making guesses at your race, job, income, sexual orientation, politics etc based on who youre “friends” with. all of thats on the decline: social media engagement on legacy platforms is down,…

The people who use chatGPT or Claude are replacing Google searches with chat conversations. Google already has most of what you're talking about from queries, so they don't need to infer much.

These companies are in on AI because there was a rush to produce the first GAI, which would be immensely valuable. I think we'll see it shortly after the first fully self driving car.

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All of these "farewell ChatGPT then!" and "they have no moat anyway" comments here are very strange. Does anyway even remember when Google used to not have ads? The introduction of ads was seen as crazy, yet nobody stopped using Google. People who say there's no moat should spend 5 minutes on social media. A big meme going around is "sure, show my wife or even the general public my most personal and intimate chats an…

I think Google as a search engine, back when the started with ads, was really superior to others. (To the point where competitors just didn't find what I was searching for and Google had it in the top three or at least on the first page.) As for ChatGPT's advantage... I am currently subscribed there and not for others... but at least for the software engineering models, OpenAI doesn't seem so far ahead... maybe it's true for other models as well. Also it's likely that most income for the LLM provider companies will come from third parties or business that integrate APIs. And as long as all the APIs are so similar (and wrapper libraries make them compatible for many use-cases)... nobody has a moat.

This will become even more interesting once business start using the cheapest for each use-case... which often end up being some open and license free model. I imagine this could be a big part of "enterprise workflow automation". Thinking of many office jobs which don't require actual intelligence besides understanding language...

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That is not anywhere near 50/50 and is your leading example. A charitable summary of the survey is, when pressed, in some areas, people can think of some potential benefits. Why are you skeptical a group of 15 people would all dislike AI? People’s perceptions are based on how it is being employed in the current moment, and they don’t like it, and don’t trust it, which is the attitude included in the /first/ bullet it…

One of the main points is literally “50% of Americans are more concerned than excited about the increased use of AI in daily life”. The rest are a mix of either more excited than concerned, or equally excited and concerned. Which again, very different from your story. This discussion is already way beyond fruitful, was just curious because your anecdote doesn’t match the actual data I’ve seen, and thus far you haven’…

I'm not really sure what your question is or was. You've just stated your skepticism that my family is negative on AI, which is weird, I was there and you were not. Maybe you are looking at the wrong surveys, or maybe you are conflating people's willingness to use AI with actually being positive and optimistic about it. Example: people use health insurance but you will not find very many that are happy to do it. You will find in the following surveys (and YOURS) that a very small percentage of people are positive about AI the rest actively dislike or at best tolerate it.

https://today.yougov.com/technology/articles/51803-americans...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/648953/americans-express-real-c...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694688/trust-businesses-improve...

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/people-dont-trust-ai-tools-use-t...

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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- ~1 billion users in just 3 years - Extremely personal data on users - Novel way of introducing and learning more about sponsored products - Strong branding for non-techie people (most normal people don't know what Claude or Gemini are) - An app that is getting more and more addictive/indispensable I think OpenAI is going to kill it in ads eventually. This is why Meta and Google went all in on AI. Their lucrative di…

What do they have that's more personalized than Google search history for the vast majority of users?

I've uploaded multiple medical reports of mine to ChatGPT over the last few years.

ChatGPT knows more about my medical than my doctor.

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What do they have that's more personalized than Google search history for the vast majority of users?

I've uploaded multiple medical reports of mine to ChatGPT over the last few years. ChatGPT knows more about my medical than my doctor.

Most people do effectively the same with Google searches.

Re: Leak confirms OpenAI is preparing ads on ChatGPT for public roll out

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People watching tons of ads on streaming services to save a few dollars a month is proof enough that ads aren't going to deter your average person.

And people watching ads even after they paid for the service is even more telling.

Exactly this… seeing ads on a service for which I’ve already paid makes me absolutely irate. Almost as bad as having to purchase content on a service I already pay for (Apple comes to mind although more do this as well).

And there is absolutely nothing stopping any company inserting ads at any time just to meet some product manager’s Q3 revenue target at any given time.

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