Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

fortune.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

751–760 of 918 posts

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#751

Post by [deleted] »

throwanem wrote: post #504
Workaccount2 wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having recently come off a micro-binge of the rise of USSR and it's history, the common theme in keeping a state communist through change of leadership is "The system works great, they just didn't know how to run it properly." Then they also proceeded to just continue the devastation. The fundamental problem of communism is that everyone needs to play along, but the rewards for not playing along grow as more people d…

That is also the fundamental problem of every other system of human governance.

[deleted]

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#752

Post by notJim »

chickenzzzzu wrote: post #710
notJim wrote: post #697

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are much greener though, at least in the West. Climate emissions peaked in Europe and North America in the last few decades (earlier in Europe.) In Europe, forests are growing back, because marginal agricultural land is being returned to forests as yields rise on prime land. I think this is beginning to happen in the US as well. This doesn't mean climate change isn't a problem, because even with this progress, we'…

That's right. So essentially we are in a deadlock where every side says "im only contributing fractionally to the problem", and nobody on Earth really has the full capability of blocking the activities you described from happening, especially not when there is good money to be made (e.g coal mining vs AI vs raising cows) Doesn't seem like a bright future, but at least AI does have a chance of solving the problem whil…

You're still missing it, we are not in a deadlock. Developed countries are in fact decarbonizing. China too is decarbonizing, though they're behind where the West is, but their goal is to peak their emissions by 2030.

In fact, it's kind of the opposite of what you say—everyone is contributing fractionally to the solution. This is what climate doomers miss.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#753

Post by [deleted] »

atoav wrote: post #723
bcrosby95 wrote: post #655

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even front end developers have more than 1 concept of an interface: there's both technical facing interfaces and customer facing interfaces. I guess you could just give a generic answer: an interface represents some kinda boundary between users and implementation details, and hopefully said boundary is easier to use than the details. I would guess some would flag that as a bullshit answer, but without clarification y…

If you answered me like that I would be happy, as it means you understood the defining characteristic of any interface is that it is the deliberate introduction of a systemic boundary to act as a bridge between two systems in the broadest sense. E.g. if a human could directly interface with digital signals we wouldn't need a graphical user interface. If your program doesn't need to interact with other programs you wo…

[deleted]

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#754

Post by nyarlathotep_ »

EFreethought wrote: post #242
linker3000 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least one of my local, out of town, supermarkets doesn't have a warehouse any more. It's all Just in Time, with a residual amount above the main shelves. If you can't find what you want, they don't have it 'out back', because apart from an unloading area, there's no 'out back'.

There was a brief period after 9/11 when planes were grounded that people realized JIT might not be such a great idea. Why does society need to learn the same lessons over and over?

We live in ahistorical times, it seems, especially since Covid.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#755

Post by 827a »

ryandrake wrote: post #324
827a wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right; AI interviews select-out candidates who aren't desperate; who tend to be the highest quality candidates. Great job, Braintrust. Some companies genuinely don't care though; they're a meatgrinder that just need to get warm souls into the machine. Ironically: These are the companies that are being eaten alive by AI right now.

Who says companies want the "highest quality candidates?" Some companies would prefer desperate, obedient employees who have no other options and will jump through any hoops they're told to jump through.

Many companies exist in a state of this reality. Very few people at these companies genuinely want it. There are some companies that are clearly and intentionally designed to want this, but they're very rare (oftentimes in consulting, oftentimes companies which prey on visa programs or undocumented immigrants. oh, and amazon).

The goal of recruiting at most companies is to get the best candidate for the role at the best price within the time it is feasible to recruit for.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#756

Post by 827a »

aflag wrote: post #518
ryandrake wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who says companies want the "highest quality candidates?" Some companies would prefer desperate, obedient employees who have no other options and will jump through any hoops they're told to jump through.

Also, most of us are about average.

True, but most companies are also average, so it ends up cancelling out.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#757

Post by sgerenser »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #276
aplummer wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spend a lot longer than candidates do on themselves if they have open source (or if an internal transfer, internal) code I can review. 50% that I’m terrified of bad hires, 50% I recognize the opportunity and gravity from their side so try to respect that.

>> if they have open source (or if an internal transfer, internal) code I can review. I give you a lot of credit for doing this. When I was still in development, I had a pretty robust github page, a sizable portfolio of stuff I had built and other side projects I was working on with various other platforms like Salesforce. Not once did an interviewer review any of that. I would find myself referring to my github page…

Unfortunately, most people’s GitHub accounts are just a smattering of forked repos with maybe one or two (or no) commits done by them. Unless you look closely, it would be easy to be fooled by the average candidates github that is essentially meaningless.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#758

Post by chickenzzzzu »

notJim wrote: post #752
chickenzzzzu wrote: post #710

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's right. So essentially we are in a deadlock where every side says "im only contributing fractionally to the problem", and nobody on Earth really has the full capability of blocking the activities you described from happening, especially not when there is good money to be made (e.g coal mining vs AI vs raising cows) Doesn't seem like a bright future, but at least AI does have a chance of solving the problem whil…

You're still missing it, we are not in a deadlock. Developed countries are in fact decarbonizing. China too is decarbonizing, though they're behind where the West is, but their goal is to peak their emissions by 2030. In fact, it's kind of the opposite of what you say—everyone is contributing fractionally to the solution . This is what climate doomers miss.

Ok, so your opinion is that in X number of years, we may well hit some new level of decarbonization where we have severely contained or reversed the effects of climate change and so on, thanks to a relatively decentralized cooperation between all countries, even historical bad actors.

My position is that that is all theatre, that even if we do achieve that it will be temporary (nth industrial revolution, nuclear war, etc), and that we will eventually be the cause of our own worldwide collapse-- all while thinking we have control to the very end.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#759

Post by gchamonlive »

9rx wrote: post #711
gchamonlive wrote: post #673

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all questions are born the same. All questions you posed so far had this arrogant air to them like I'm missing something so obvious it doesn't have to be stated. If you can't bother to express yourself better why should I make this effort of guessing what you mean? You'd be surprised how far a bit of benefit of the doubt can take you.

> All questions you posed so far had this arrogant air to them Arrogance has nothing to do with anything, so this seems logically flawed, no? However, in the interest of trying to better understand your take, how would you have alternatively phrased them to not have that "air to them"? > If you can't bother to express yourself better why should I make this effort of guessing what you mean? Why make a foolish guess wh…

I'm sorry. I lack the patience and the interest in continuing this conversation, but I deemed impolite to just ghost you. I won't be responding anymore.

Re: Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

#760

Post by sgerenser »

PenguinCoder wrote: post #464
ivape wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of the time a company wanted me to take an IQ test.

Was it Canonical?

I didn’t think Canonical did IQ tests, they just wanted you to report your high school GPA and class rank, and list all the clubs, activities, and awards and great things you did in high school and college. Even if you’ve been in industry for 20+ years.
Post reply on HN