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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by davenportjw »

tobyhinloopen wrote: post #641
xuf wrote: post #638

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That works for me, however, it automatically switches me to gemini-2.5-flash: Slow response times detected. Automatically switching from gemini-2.5-pro to gemini-2.5-flash for faster responses for the remainder of this session. To avoid this you can utilize a Gemini API Key. See: https://goo.gle/gemini-cli-docs-auth#gemini-api-key You can switch authentication methods by typing /auth

Yeah I also just gave up. I'll revisit it in a week or so.

We're continuing to work on capacity, thanks for your patience!

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by bloppe »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #647
bloppe wrote: post #629

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This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.

But the only way to have it centralized is to have it integrated in iOS. Stripe already is a second place, non centralized, off platform. I don't want to hunt down my predatory subscriptions in multiple places.

Why do you think that's the only way? Payment processors have long been able to differentiate recurring transactions from one-offs. Capital One has subscription management.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by simianwords »

leoh wrote: post #631
leoh wrote: post #524

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>Personally my theory is that Gemini benefits from being able to train on Googles massive internal code base and because Rust has been very low on uptake internally at Google, especially since they have some really nice C++ tooling, Gemini is comparatively bad at Rust. Were they to train it on their C++ codebase, it would not be effective on account of the fact that they don't use boost or cmake or any major stuff th…

Excuse me why was this downvoted so aggressively??

How can they train on internal codebase without leaking specifics?

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by throwaway1550 »

tarvaina wrote: post #125
behnamoh wrote: post #67

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Actually, that's the reason a lot of startups and solo developers prefer non-Google solutions, even though the quality of Gemini 2.5 Pro is insanely high. The Google Cloud Dashboard is a mess, and they haven't fixed it in years. They have Vertex that is supposed to host some of their models, but I don't understand what's the difference between that and their own cloud. And then you have two different APIs depending o…

It took me a while but I think the difference between Vertex and Gemini APIs is that Vertex is meant for existing GCP users and Gemini API for everyone else. If you are already using GCP then Vertex API works like everything else there. If you are not, then Gemini API is much easier. But they really should spell it out, currently it's really confusing. Also they should make it clearer which SDKs, documents, pricing,…

Ex-googler here. Google shipped their org hierarchy here.

Vertex API is managed by Vertex team in Google Cloud. This is a production ready infrastructure that is SRE managed but usually one or two steps from the bleeding edge.

Gemini API, Jules etc are built by Google Labs. This is close to the bleeding edge but not as production ready.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by bloppe »

calessian wrote: post #665
bloppe wrote: post #629

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This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.

How the platform and the vendor split that money is irrelevant to me, and I’m not convinced this would become cheaper - evidently consumers are willing to pay the current price, so why wouldn’t the vendor just increase their profit? In the same vein: Games don’t cost less on the epic store despite their lower (compared to Steam) either, so as an end user it makes no difference where I buy games.

https://expertbeacon.com/why-epic-games-is-cheaper-than-stea...

Maybe you like paying an extra 20%. That's your business. But fees like that affect the viability of lots of business ideas, including games. Having lower fees increases the pool of indie games.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by bloppe »

skinnymuch wrote: post #639
bloppe wrote: post #629

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This is exactly the kind of innovation Apple apologists don't realize they're missing out on in the walled garden. You could still have easy, centralized billing with all-in-one management and one-click cancellation, while paying 30% less for everything. Give the free market a chance.

That is the free market. That is why libertarians love the free market.

Idk if you just have a bone to pick with libertarians, but monopolized markets by definition are not free markets, regardless of how they arise

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by s1artibartfast »

oblio wrote: post #689
CamperBob2 wrote: post #463

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Integrated local stores are better for pretty much everything except for actually having what you want in stock. There is a reason why rural communities welcome Wal-Mart with open arms. Not such a big deal now that you can mail-order anything more-or-less instantly, but back in the 80s when I was growing up in BFE, Wal-Mart was a godsend.

The 80s were 40 years ago, though. Something can outlive its usefulness.

Local stores are better in many ways, but not the ones consumers care about: price and convenience.

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by asadm »

leoh wrote: post #632
asadm wrote: post #532

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the core idea is to not use up all of context for files but instead sessions go longer before becoming a useless pursuit ie. more turns possible with larger context window

Are you doing this with an LLM interface directly as opposed to using cursor or another tool like that?

yeah i meant via coding interfaces, mostly aider/claude code/gemini cli

Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by [deleted] »

XCSme wrote: post #681
andreagrandi wrote: post #679

I've a few concerns: 1) I tried to use it on an existing project asking this "Analyse the project and create a GEMINI.md". It fumbled some non sense for 10-15 minutes and after that it said it was done, but it had only analysed a few files in the root and didn't generate anything at all. 2) Despite finding a way to login with my workspace account, it then asks me for the GOOGLE_CLOUD_PROJECT which doesn't make any se…

> but it had only analysed a few files in the root and didn't generate anything at all This is my experience with ALL AI editors and models. Half of the time, they say they changed things, but they didn't change anything.

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Re: Gemini CLI

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Post by [deleted] »

kridsdale3 wrote: post #454
thimabi wrote: post #453

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Oh, you’re right, there are the legal issues as well. Just out of curiosity, do you see much difference in quality between the isolated model and the public-facing ones?

We actually only got the “2.5” version of the internal one a few days ago so I don’t have an opinion yet. But when I had to choose between “2.0 with Google internal knowledge” and “2.5 that knows nothing” the latter was always superior. The bitter lesson indeed.

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