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Google is winning on every AI front

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Sebguer wrote: post #631
Lerc wrote: post #423

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LLMs should be legally required to act in the interest of their users (not their creators). This is a standard that already applies to positions of advisors such as Medical professionals, lawyers and financial advisors. I haven't seen this discussed much by regulators, but I have made a couple of submissions here and there expressing this opinion. AIs will get better, and they will become more trusted. They cannot be…

Who decides what's in the interest of the user?

The same same for the human professions, a set of agreed upon guidelines on acting in service of the client, and enforcement of penalties against identifiable instances of prioritizing the interests of another party over the client.

There will always be grey areas, these exist when human responsibilities are set also, and there will be those who skirt the edges. The matters of most concern are quite easily identifiable.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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ysofunny wrote: post #594
Lerc wrote: post #423

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs should be legally required to act in the interest of their users (not their creators). This is a standard that already applies to positions of advisors such as Medical professionals, lawyers and financial advisors. I haven't seen this discussed much by regulators, but I have made a couple of submissions here and there expressing this opinion. AIs will get better, and they will become more trusted. They cannot be…

> LLMs should be legally required to act in the interest of their users (not their creators). lofty ideal... I don't see this ever happening; not anymore than I see humanity flat out abandoning the very concept of "money"

I am not a fan of fatalism. Instead of saying it won't ever happen, we need to be asking to have rights.

At the very least you will force people to make the case for the opposing opinion, and we learn who they are and why they think that.

Lawyers cannot act against their clients, do you think we have irreparably lost the ability as a society to create similar protections in the future.

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Post by acstorage »

thunderbird120 wrote: post #10

This article doesn't mention TPUs anywhere. I don't think it's obvious for people outside of google's ecosystem just how extraordinarily good the JAX + TPU ecosystem is. Google several structural advantages over other major players, but the largest one is that they roll their own compute solution which is actually very mature and competitive. TPUs are extremely good at both training and inference[1] especially at sca…

Unclear if they can actually beat GPUs in training throughout with 4D parallelism

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Post by wayeq »

a2128 wrote: post #302
levocardia wrote: post #51

Google is winning on every front except... marketing (Google has a chatbot?), trust (who knew the founding fathers were so diverse?), safety (where's the 2.5 Pro model card?), market share (fully one in ten internet users on the planet are weekly ChatGPT users), and, well, vibes (who's rooting for big G, exactly?). But I will admit, Gemini Pro 2.5 is a legit good model. So, hats off for that.

My experience with their software has been horrible. A friend was messing around with Gemini on my phone and said my name is John, and it automatically saved that to my saved info list and always called me John from then on. But when I ask it to forget this, it says it can't do that automatically and links me to the Saved Info page, which is a menu they didn't implement in the app so it opens a URL in my browser and…

how's your day going, John?

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Post by 6510 »

thunderbird120 wrote: post #10

This article doesn't mention TPUs anywhere. I don't think it's obvious for people outside of google's ecosystem just how extraordinarily good the JAX + TPU ecosystem is. Google several structural advantages over other major players, but the largest one is that they roll their own compute solution which is actually very mature and competitive. TPUs are extremely good at both training and inference[1] especially at sca…

The problem is always their company never the product. They had countless great products. You cant depend on a product if the company is reliably unreliable enough. If they don't simply delete it for being expensive and "unprofitable" they might initially win, eventually, like search and youtube, it will be so watered down you cant taste the wine.

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Post by HaZeust »

vitaflo wrote: post #692
mattlondon wrote: post #197

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YouTube is very well positioned - all these video generating models etc. I am sure they'll be loads of AI editors too

Good, maybe Youtube will finally recommend something to me I actually want to watch.

Personally, I've never actually heard this problem. Do you watch industry-specific videos in a non-anonymized browser session enough? Once you watch, like, 5 videos on topics you care about, the algorithm has no shortage of astute suggestions.

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Post by okdood64 »

sandspar wrote: post #674
joenot443 wrote: post #648

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Personally, I don't really think there's a team at Google, nor at OpenAI, paying for "astroturfing" on sites like HN. What are the rough steps through which you see this working? I see people talking about "astroturfing" all the time without much explanation on the mechanisms. So roughly, there are employees paid solely to post on social media like HN trying to push the needle in one direction or another?

There doesn't need to be a team. Individuals can act according to personal incentives and still create coordinated behavior. Look at flocks of birds. Each bird acts for itself; together they move in unison.

Sure, but that's not what 'astroturf campaigns' impies.
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