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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by genewitch »

scarab92 wrote: post #541
rsolva wrote: post #335

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He may use Signal, but he does not want people on X to advertise their presence on any competing platforms. It is a childish and protectionist policy, and in no way align with his Free Speech® claims. It was the same when URLs to Mastodon/Fediverse instances was banned on X, in an attempt to hamper the network effect for those who migrated. Meta does the same with Pixelfed these days, to hamper migration away from In…

It's probably just a spam filter going awry. Signal links are odd, in that all the identifies are after the #, so to a spam filter this just looks like a single url, https://signal.me , being sent out in mass.

I run a service that does the decryption in the client so it's links look the same to filters. It runs up1, a really old version. The links are all like http://example.com/#longhexhash

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by guappa »

_heimdall wrote: post #505
guappa wrote: post #402

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> My understanding has always been that its specifically the government that can't censor me, a private company or citizen can. Then you have no free speech. I can just refuse you internet access, or not sell ink and paper to you… So my take is that no, it should not be allowed to private companies to censor arbitrarily. And of course an "algorithm" that sorts stuff in any other way than chronologically is censorship…

No one is required to help me spread my speech. The only protection is against governments censoring what their citizens say. Don't sell me paper. Cut off my internet. That doesn't stop me from saying whatever I want, whether in public or private.

How you don't understand that the point of free speech is the ability to be heard by others, and if you're shadow-banned you're effectively just writing a private diary?

I mean, ok you have this right. What do you think was the INTENTION of this right? Do you think they intended for people to freely mumble to themselves or to tell their ideas to others?

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by genewitch »

beowulfey wrote: post #606
abernard1 wrote: post #228

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The USAID revelation revealed how they were funded. Along with thousands of other news organizations domestically and globally.

You're still not making sense. Who is "they" here, USAID? What does your second sentence even mean? How "news organizations [are funded]"? I'm seriously unclear what you are trying to say.

USAID had thousands of premium subscriptions to newspapers and magazines. One such was for 8000 monthly subscriptions. I don't remember the publication with 8000 but the NYT also got money from USAID.

Not sure if that's what we're talking about here. For the record I am against that practice.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by genewitch »

rabite wrote: post #23
docdeek wrote: post #15

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> If I own a platform I’m not under any obligation to allow you to say whatever you like on that platform. Before the Internet this was not the case. In Marsh v. Alabama, it was ruled (in line with all previous precedent) that privately owned roadways and sidewalks had to allow religious pamphleters, even though it is private property. The court asserted that anywhere that is the forum for public discussion is de fac…

Thanks for typing this.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by ben_w »

lynx97 wrote: post #179
_fw wrote: post #87

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It’s not about immigration. If it was, then mainstream parties WOULD fix immigration. It’s about national identity, “us and them”. If it wasn’t about immigrants it would be about “experts”. If it wasn’t about experts it would be about “the gays”. This kind of thing doesn’t go away with appeasement: orgs like AfD just point their weapons at somebody else. It has always been the way with facists.

No, it IS about illegal immigrants. Claiming everyone supporting center/right/conservative values is automatically anti-gay is just wrong and toxic.

You just shifted from "immigration" to "illegal immigration".

Dual citizenship is as legal as you can get, the AfD opposed it until they realised it meant they could get away with later stripping undesirable people of German citizenship.

Germany decided to accept a million *perfectly legal* asylum seekers in the Syrian crisis, and another million from Ukraine. The AfD opposes it, even as they accept the suffering of Ukranians is real.

Germany is also in the EU, so has, totally lawful, free movement of people from every country they share a border with. The AfD opposes it.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by torlok »

scarab92 wrote: post #729
torlok wrote: post #718

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AfD is a Nazi party, and nobody's silencing them, despite overwhelming opposition in all EU countries. If you listen to EU parliament speeches, there's all kinds of radical political views being shared during debates. Vance came to Europe to peddle US culture wars and got laughed out.

> AfD is a Nazi party. It feels inappropriate that progressives have decided that it's okay to use Nazi as a generic insult for mainstream right wing parties. It waters down the true horrors of the Nazi party. Anyway, as to censorship coming from Germany: "Germany submits the highest number of legal demands for user data to X within the European Union, with ~87% of these requests targeting speech-related offenses. "…

Your source is Elon Musk. AfD is not just "a mainstream right-wing party".

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by matthberg »

tremon wrote: post #671
pindab0ter wrote: post #593

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Is the useSkin parameter something you manually added? I am not logged in and when I navigate to another page the parameter (and with it the skin preference) disappears.

Oh sorry, yes I have a browser extension that always adds that parameter to any wikipedia page. I usually strip it when posting a link, but I forgot (and since it's a long link, it doesn't display in its entirety so I didn't catch it).

I just discovered that feature due to your mistake, so thank you!

For similarly newly enlightened people it's a feature of MediaWiki (which Wikipedia runs on) and there are five (plus two) themes selectable with ?useskin= values:

- timeless (as seen above): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=timeles...

- monobook (default 2004-2009): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=monoboo...

- vector (default 2010-2021): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=vector

- vector-2022 (desktop default 2022-): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=vector-...

- minerva (mobile default): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=minerva

- modern (delightedly dated, deprecated): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=modern

- cologneblue (also ancient and anti-favored): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Skin?useskin=cologne...

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by [deleted] »

dartos wrote: post #435
BSDobelix wrote: post #279

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>It doesnt though, thats the point. Not a Lawyer, but threatening to kill someone is not protected by free speech right? >They keep listening to the hate speech The definition of "hate speech" is unclear and a made-up word to make people feel bad for being angry -> Two Minutes Hate >>The political purpose of the Two Minutes Hate is to allow the citizens of Oceania to vent their existential anguish and personal hatred…

> The definition of "hate speech" is unclear and a made-up word to make people feel bad for being angry Buddy, do a little bit of googling before you say plainly incorrect stuff like this. [1] [2] Just because there’s not a single definition of a word does not mean the meaning of the word is unclear. I think everyone on the planet could identify the vast majority of hate speech from the age of like 11. They say the e…

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Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by scarab92 »

torlok wrote: post #756
scarab92 wrote: post #729

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AfD is a Nazi party. It feels inappropriate that progressives have decided that it's okay to use Nazi as a generic insult for mainstream right wing parties. It waters down the true horrors of the Nazi party. Anyway, as to censorship coming from Germany: "Germany submits the highest number of legal demands for user data to X within the European Union, with ~87% of these requests targeting speech-related offenses. "…

Your source is Elon Musk. AfD is not just "a mainstream right-wing party".

Sure it is. Their policies are comparable to the those of the current trump administration.

Re: X users are unable to post “Signal.me” links

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Post by computerthings »

genewitch wrote: post #748
torlok wrote: post #718

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AfD is a Nazi party, and nobody's silencing them, despite overwhelming opposition in all EU countries. If you listen to EU parliament speeches, there's all kinds of radical political views being shared during debates. Vance came to Europe to peddle US culture wars and got laughed out.

AfD the extreme right wing nazi party helmed by a lesbian that is married to a brown woman? Are you sure you're using all of these words correctly?

Yes, they are.

https://extremismterms.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/altern...

AFAIK they don't terribly mind what Israel is doing in Gaza, and even the ADL has that page about them.

There is a lot more if you are not convinced. At any rate Alice Weidel being lesbian means as much as some of the original Nazi leadership being homosexual, nothing. Homosexuality isn't a taboo anymore, holocaust revisionism is. Those to whom it isn't are anathema to those to whom it is.

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