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We should not model our food supply chain on Africa. In fact, it is beyond absurd to suggest it. African small holders run very unproductive farms, with horrible yields despite high labor intensive practices. Most countries have been on the brink of starvation up until very recently (some still are), and this only improved via adoption of modern farming practices.

This is ignorance at its worst. Smallholder farms across Africa are quite productive if you measure inputs (labor, energy, capital, fertilizer, water, land use) against outputs (calories, nutrition). They are certainly comparable with industrialized agriculture (large-scale monoculture) that is often incredibly wasteful (except when it comes to paying their laborers a living wage). "Modern farming practices" mostly t…

> Smallholder farms across Africa are quite productive if you measure inputs (labor, energy, capital, fertilizer, water, land use) against outputs (calories, nutrition).

This sounds intelligent, but is extremely wrong perspective.

For example, most of these farms are well known to underuse fertilizer. There is no good reason for it, except in some relatively snall amount of cases where extreme poverty doesn’t leave farmers with enough capital to buy fertilizer (even though ROI is ridiculously high). This severe under capitalization is already a reason why we shouldn’t imitate their example. Anyway, all the development agencies run very active program to promote use of fertilizer, with very limited effect.

If you consider insufficient fertilizer use, then yeah, maybe they get good yields in the context. But that’s like saying “sure I got very meager crop because I didn’t water my crops in the drought even though I could, but if you consider my inputs (very little water and energy spent on watering), I actually did pretty well”, which is ridiculous: we shouldn’t imitate that.

> They are certainly comparable with industrialized agriculture (large-scale monoculture)

No. Their yields are horrible, and in no way comparable to modern industrialized agriculture.

> And for the last 150 years or so no "starvation" anywhere in the world has been due to a lack of calories that could have reasonably been made available for the people starving.

This is true if you define “starvation” as “literal famine involving mass death”, but if you are trying to say that there has been no severe, persistent, widespread malnutrition due to insufficient caloric intake, then you are extremely wrong. Up until last couple of decades, overwhelming majority of Africans have been seriously malnourished, and this was caused by the inefficiency of their agricultural sector. It was only alleviated (and only in some places) by modern, western style development.

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I love how British eggs have deep, amber yolks. Are they force-feeding the hens Earl Grey?

Food additive manufacturers sell farmers aditives to produce yolks with specific hues[1]. There are regional/cultural variations in color preferences, so regional farmers will target different sades. [1] https://www.dsm-firmenich.com/anh/products-and-services/prod...

It's slightly disingenuous to call carotenoids "additives". Although it might technically be true, carotenoids are naturally present in tons of vegetables (hence carrots) and are a good antioxidant with other known health benefits.

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Lots of people suggesting to build chicken coop. i have one, sure it's not much work. 2 minutes every day to grab the egg and bring the food and water, but then every 3 year you got to take the hatchet, grab each chicken, cut right on the neck and then hang it with it's feet while it's bleeding out and flapping its wings. then there are the few occasion where you miss with the hatchet and it cuts half its neck, its h…

What do you do with chicken corpses in the country? Burn them?

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Totally agree with this. After selling my last company (iCracked W12) I had been playing around with the idea of how to build the world's largest decentralized food production network - think millions of people leveraging their backyards to produce, share, and sell protein and vegetables. I've always wanted to build a company that blends smart home / AI technology with backyard agriculture and we decided to start wit…

Amazing project! I always get excited when I hear new innovative ideas to improve ecosystems/businesses that are taught of as "traditional". There's this My First Million podcast episode with Justin Mares (DTC Food entrepreneur) where they talk about boostrapping alternative food biz ideas and are very bullish on these verticals and they also talk about various types of birds breeds and how cornish cross became the p…

Most of our customers have decent sized backyards - I would say on average from clips people have shared, most yards are about the size of a tennis court or more (which is more than enough for 4-6 hens). Basically we look at it as, if you have a backyard, you have enough space for 4-6 chickens. Also, It's funny you mention My First Million - Sam Parr is a good friend of mine and I've been trying to get him to invest in Coop, lol.

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I guess the flu hasn't made it to the EU, large eggs at Lidl have been about 28 cents each for many months now.

Bird flu in the US has spread to wild animals and other species of wild and domesticated animals so it is very widespread, also there is a vaccine but poultry farms refuse to use it because of cost and it would make the meat/eggs not suitable for export, poultry producers have resorted to making their poultry farms as clean as possible, washing trucks that come onto property, making employees wash and wear protective…

We've also had bird flu in NL some years ago, but I don't think it was anywhere near that dramatic. I do vaguely recall that it was mostly an issue for free range chickens, because they go outside and can get infected by wild birds shitting from above. I'd expect indoor chickens to be less vulnerable, though I do recall similar measures to prevent humans from spreading it. I think there have been rules that free range chickens need to get a roof over their heads to prevent spreading.

It's still weird that it got so dramatically out of hand in the US this time.

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This is it? This the big meme of 2025? "Remember when eggs were expensive"? Ukraine is at war, minorities are being oppressed at home, an economic tidal wave is about to hit us vis-a-vis Chinese imports, the economy is on the ropes, and big brother is literally banning the government from saying words like "sex" and "gender" - but, oh boy, can you believe the price of these eggs??? Is every person in this country eat…

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All I can come up with is that DEI programs got canceled. It probably feels like oppression if you were previously benefiting from it.

As a minority (Asian) I feel the opposite of oppressed.

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This is why we must freeze USDA funding, halt all public health communications from our federal government, and urgently (TOP PRIORITY!!!) scrub all mentions of the word "women" from every public-facing piece of scientific content we can find.

I hope they stop this cultural war and focus on the real problems that actually affects the population,for example, high prices.

Those who would give up essential liberties for cheap eggs deserve neither and will lose both.

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Trump's last administration drew on a NOAA hurricane map with a sharpie to try to convince people he was not wrong about a hurricane path. Changing data is his style.

I honestly think that one was ignorance more than direct malice. I think he is in fact as ignorant / incurious as he seems.

Another data point that stuck with me: viewing an eclipse by making a pinhole in paper and looking directly through it at the sun.

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Lots of people suggesting to build chicken coop. i have one, sure it's not much work. 2 minutes every day to grab the egg and bring the food and water, but then every 3 year you got to take the hatchet, grab each chicken, cut right on the neck and then hang it with it's feet while it's bleeding out and flapping its wings. then there are the few occasion where you miss with the hatchet and it cuts half its neck, its h…

Wow this is such a real life comment. Very much a breath of fresh air on a site devoted to software, business, politics.

Thanks for taking the time to write it.

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This is it? This the big meme of 2025? "Remember when eggs were expensive"? Ukraine is at war, minorities are being oppressed at home, an economic tidal wave is about to hit us vis-a-vis Chinese imports, the economy is on the ropes, and big brother is literally banning the government from saying words like "sex" and "gender" - but, oh boy, can you believe the price of these eggs??? Is every person in this country eat…

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