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The UAE is a microcosm and not representative of general trends imo.
I believe that, 15 years ago was peak deadmau5, skrillex, dubstep explosion, EDC expanding everywhere. No way globally its more popular now then it was in the 2010s
It's not really surprising, but the article seems to conflate raves with nightclubs, with numerous remarks about the cost of being out at a club all night and paying for things like expensive bottle service. Raves are not clubs, and historically have never done that well in club environments. People who are really into staying up all night dancing to techno music aren't buying expensive alcoholic drinks, they're buyi…
Not to mention cell phones everywhere.
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I think you are missing something. Clubs have always been the „mothers“ of raves. This has been the case since the only days of chicago warehouse parties up until what is now the case in berlin. Once the clubs go away, the off location parties will disappear next.
> I think you are missing something. Clubs have always been the „mothers“ of raves This is rewriting history. Raves was a british thing, and it was in the open, not in clubs. Chicago warehouse parties preceded raves and are important for electronic dance music history, but are not raves.
But to be even more pedantic the concept goes further than that as in the late 30s and forties there would be dance contests to see who could last the longest…
To go even further than that jazz, before that polka… it being a folk version of the waltzes of the time. Newspapers of time read like madlibs only replace leather jackets and mohawks with polka dots. Quite a trip.
Going back further pre industrialization its said you couldn't hear the orchestra over the sounds of fucking in the box seats on the balcony… the idea of stuffy classical concerts only emerging when the concert halls were opened to the burgeoning middle class and said class would dress up to rub shoulders with the aristocracy.
But in antiquity the mystery religions of Dionysus would arguably be the first true raves in spirit.
But every culture has its all night dances, from pow wows of the plains to suffi’s in the muslim world.
Music is largely universal and a uniquely human endeavor, the oldest flutes found are made by Neanderthal.
But techno?… thats all Detroit.
I think it’s health related, as the article mentions. >One executive in the entertainment industry said younger people were less inclined to go out raving until 6am as they were more health conscious and less frivolous with money than previous generations This is the same generation that has 12 step skincare routines, eats only organic food, chooses to vape or zyn rather than smoke because of secondhand smoke, everyo…
In Australia, nightclub entry can be expensive, ranging from $20-50 per club. 10 years ago, you’d club hop, maybe going to 3-4 clubs from 11pm until 7am. These days, it’s not worth it. Drinks are like $12-16 for a basic mixed drink. A lot of patrons just drink at home, then drink (free) water and take MDMA and/or ketamine at clubs, which is significantly cheaper than a night of buying drinks.
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For sure, I think this does however line up with even younger folks who aren't going to generic clubs for a late night. They would just start earlier, bars/etc. and then end earlier. The full night bangers are definitely still very viable (and as crowded as you would like them) in NYC
I live in NYC as well, and I find the post COVID Berlin-esque Bushwick only scene to be terrible. It's filled with the most dull repetitive music that AI can replicate with a god awful sound system and no atmospherics whatsoever, and while I do appreciate the lack of dress code / door policy / bouncer aggressiveness, it feels like a brutal slog to endure without drugs, and a miserable long ass train ride on the L tra…
I actually agree that the grunginess of Bushwick can be obnoxious and frankly gross a lot of the time, but the thought of hanging out with a bunch of cishet normies in an expensive SoHo club is anathema to why I would even go out in the first place.
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If this is sarcastic and you mean the opposite, then I think that you don't have empathy for women receiving unwanted attention because you yourself never received unwanted attention and that is sad and I empathize with that feeling of sadness and shame. I think you should reconsider some parts of your belief system if it prompts such a thought that breaks through to be written in a comment for others to consume.
I think most women are aware that if they go to a nightclub and wear their most attractive outfit, they will receive a lot of attention. And yes, if you receive a lot of attention, some of that will be unwanted. Adults realize that and deal with it. Don't confuse empathy with treating people like idiots or children and putting them into positions of victims. I have received unwanted attention in the past. I didn't cr…
But the line between 1 and 2 is fuzzier for women than for men, hence the "choose the bear" meme. I've received unwanted attention but never felt remotely threatened or endangered by it, you won't hear that from many women though.
And further. When basically everyone had to play the game, the proportion of actual bad actors was small. Lots of "meh, no thanks, next", not much hassle or danger. However. When a lot of milder actors take themselves out of the pool voluntarily (online being satisfactory, or something like that) you end up with a worse ratio. Basically if fewer guys are approaching women full stop, the ones that do are more likely to be trouble of one kind or another.
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I went to my first rave in 1991 in Sheffield City Ballroom. There was plenty of raving indoors and in clubs in Sheffield and Leeds in the early 90s.
They existed, but where they "raves" or just clubs and venues playing rave music? Proper raves where the DIY open or underground fare, secretly organized, communicated with flyers or whisper-net, etc. And when the 1994 act banned them there was a lot of (justified) anger from the rave "community"! In any case, still a British thing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-647769...
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I think you are missing something. Clubs have always been the „mothers“ of raves. This has been the case since the only days of chicago warehouse parties up until what is now the case in berlin. Once the clubs go away, the off location parties will disappear next.
> I think you are missing something. Clubs have always been the „mothers“ of raves This is rewriting history. Raves was a british thing, and it was in the open, not in clubs. Chicago warehouse parties preceded raves and are important for electronic dance music history, but are not raves.
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In Australia these are known as "bush doofs" and are essentially community events - they're organised, run and attended by a group of people rather than an organisation. You can't buy tickets to them, you have to know someone who's in the group chat for them. You can just turn up on the day if you know where the event is; they're always incredibly remote, usually on a patch of bush (forest) on someone's enormous farm…
They can look a little like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH_RWBSQ9ic Note: Burning car and local farm fire truck to stop fire spreading.
Not quite the same thing as a bush doof.
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It's shocking how often the answer to real estate issues is "land value tax would fix this!"
Sorry, but a "land value tax" is one of the worst political propositions I've ever heard. This is a great way to further erode the middle class, ensure that owning is always prohibitively out-of-reach for anyone born after 1980, and to promote corporate consolidation of land by BlackRock and other corporations.
I would expect a land tax to do the complete opposite and reduce the value of land by half or more, which would do quite bad things to the finances of homeowners, most of whom were born before 2000.