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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by superfrank »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #654
superfrank wrote: post #466

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I actually think that could end up having the opposite effect in lower paying fields. An mid level engineer at Google averages $280k/yr according to levels. A principal mechanical engineer at Boeing averages $170k/yr according to levels. If Google can pay an H1-B engineer 70% of what a non H1-B employee would get ($196k), they can bid up to 80k and still save money. Since Boeing is going for a high level employee who…

> Since Boeing is going for a high level employee who actually highly skilled "actually": Are you saying that mid-level engineer at Google making ~300K/yr is not actually highly skilled?

Uniquely skilled is probably a better word to use. H1-Bs are meant to be used when American worker's can't be found to fill a role. I think there are more people qualified to be a mid level software engineer (even at the FAANG level) than principal mechanical engineers at Boeing.

I doubt that many mechanical engineers can become a principal level engineer at a Fortune 500 company in 3-5 years, but I know plenty of software engineers who've gotten to L4 at FAANG companies in that timeframe.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by touisteur »

profsummergig wrote: post #592
snakeyjake wrote: post #342

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My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

Curious re: "linear algebra". What kind of understanding is needed? A basic understanding? It's a vast and unending subject. And there are well known software apps that do linear algebra these days. Do you folks use a particular software to do it? Engineering Technician: what does an hour in the life of such work look like? Thanks.

Later on GP talks about radar, so I'd guess probably at least the basics, convolution, matrix multiplication, and some inverse methods (evd, svd, cholesky...). Not just implementing but understanding what it does, a bit ?

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by mcmcmc »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

The hard truth is that too many people can’t pass the drug test required for security clearance, and that does narrow your applicant pool.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by mcmcmc »

0086b416f103 wrote: post #454
snakeyjake wrote: post #342

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My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

> We cannot find qualified applicants. Your company is incompetent. I've applied to hundreds of companies like yours within Huntsville, AL in the past year, rejected or ghosted all the time. Defense morons will talk about how hard their work is and how they can't find anyone to do it. Completely skip over how prevalent affirmative action is in their hiring process; who were you guys interviewing in 2020? Why is the d…

Have you considered that it might be your attitude costing you job opportunities? Anti-woke baby raging isn’t exactly exactly an attractive quality in a potential candidate

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by cuteboy19 »

stackskipton wrote: post #233
BeetleB wrote: post #126

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Software is one of the few STEM fields where one can get a fantastic job with just a Bachelor's. In most other engineering fields, a MS gives you a significant boost, and a PhD may do so as well. The reality is that in most of those fields, few Americans get an MS/PhD. Go to a typical engineering department and you'll often see the majority of advanced degree students are foreigners. So it's a question of: Do we want…

I think vast majority of Americans not going on to higher education is because system is so screwed up due to debt and unlimited student visas. Debt means most Americans go "I need to enter into the job market so I can pay off these debts". Also, alot of foreign students are willing to work/study insane hours because visa hanging over their head. I have a friend who got MS in Engineering but didn't want to continue b…

foreign students actually subsidize higher education for most universities

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by bigbacaloa »

dingnuts wrote: post #217
toomuchtodo wrote: post #168

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There is a shortage of applicants willing to work at what companies want to pay. If it is taking more than 30-60 days for workers to find a role, there are enough workers domestically.

> There is a shortage of applicants willing to work at what companies want to pay Translation: companies would rather have underpaid immigrants as indentured servants to exploit than Americans who can demand higher wages

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Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by christina97 »

remarkEon wrote: post #246
hash872 wrote: post #235

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The US is only 4% of the world's population, so there's an enormous number of extremely smart people who live outside its present borders. I don't think anyone believes that even the world's greatest educational system can bring all of its students up to an extremely high level of general intelligence. We should be letting very smart people born outside the US emigrate here, which is a win-win for everyone involved

Sure. But the government of the United States is, allegedly, there for the benefit of its citizens. I'm not really following where this "should" comes from. "Should" in what volume? "Should" over what time frame?

I mean the US thinks of its place in the world as much more than the domestic insular affairs of its citizens. If you look at it from that angle it’s obvious that vacuuming up smart people and becoming “more powerful” intellectually is what the US clearly wants.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by llm_trw »

snakeyjake wrote: post #342
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #161

A supposed shortage of qualified US applicants for tech jobs, especially software developers, doesn't jibe with the huge numbers of US developers currently looking for work, including highly experienced older workers suffering from age discrimination. I'd be surprised if more than 5-10% of H-1B positions are ones where the hiring company has even looked for US applicants.

My employer cannot hire H-1Bs. You must be a US citizen to work for my company. No "US Persons" (visa holders) or foreigners allowed. You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance. You don't have to get one if you don't want to as there is usually plenty of uncleared work to go around, but you have to be eligible in case that goes away and we need to put you in for a clearance. We cannot find qualified appl…

>You have to be eligible for a Secret security clearance.

Having had to go through one of those: yeah no shit. Not everyone enjoys a colonoscopy without anesthesia.

>You (even programmers!) have to touch the things we build in order to build them and nobody has an ISO certified clean room in their house.

I do, a keg at any rate, but given that I can't get a security clearance because of the people I hung out to build one - yeah.

Re: Updates to H-1B

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Post by intended »

pikclingoil wrote: post #747
intended wrote: post #735

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IF Meta is the benchmark for “good” pay, then this is nuts. There are far more people who need code, than just the people at FAANG companies. Are you saying that these firms are economically uncompetitive, with META, and should shut shop?

>Are you saying that these firms are economically uncompetitive, with META, and should shut shop? A company with same requirements but not the funding? Absolutely >There are far more people who need code, than just the people at FAANG companies. With different requirements you can find way more people.

In that case, there is 100% going to be a move to offshoring.

Ideally, the industry would relocate outside of the US, to a place where they can be competitive.

However, since this defense, they can’t, and will never be competitive.

So defense will languish.

I guess that’s all I have. I can’t see a way out of the situation if we accept your premise.

Defense margins aren’t going to beat social media margins, that too of something like meta.

Requirements are requirements. If you need a hammer, scalpels won’t help.

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