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Thinks that China is an enemy government when the USA and China do 500 billion dollars worth of trade each year.
Which friendly governments steal secrets about premier weapon systems like F-22, F-35, etc?
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"Mistreat" is a bit unnecessarily dramatic. People in the US were fine (possibly even better off) before TikTok, and they'll be just fine if it goes away. China's level of internet control and censorship does seem to rise to the level of mistreatment (in that they control and shape access to information, in ways that further the interests of state propaganda), but denying Chinese companies (and the Chinese government…
How the mighty have fallen. I remember the Arab Spring and all the excitement about media being in people's hands, safe from censorship... So finally, non-Arab people got the same opportunity too. And now, apparently, there's nuance.
How many popular revolutions happened during Arab spring that long term lead to more democratic societies? Saudi Arabia learned to just get government employees hired to moderate twitter, and then had their wealth fund help Musk buy it outright.
There's been a lot of change since 2012 in fact.
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I’m no Tiktok fan but the US has extremely broad free speech protections and its hard to see how this could be constitutional. Individuals posting videos of themselves is clearly speech so we are in the 1st amendment territory. None of the usual exceptions for certain types of content (defamation, threats, fraud etc) apply because the restriction isn’t on specific content. The only way out I could see is saying natio…
But their free speech isn’t limited. They lose a platform, which is something completely different. Free speech doesn’t mean having to facilitate it. People can still create a website and post their clips, or move to instagram or Snapchat or bluesky or twitter or whatever.
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As a myth- and truth-maker I'm sure Bill Clinton outweighs TikTok by a huge margin. Compare speaking out against his recent theocratic and genocidal outbursts with speaking out against some stuff on TikTok, one can get you fired from middle class positions of authority, like teaching at universities, the other is perfectly safe unless it also goes against US elites.
I don't know what "theocratic and genocidal outbursts" you're referring to, but it's completely untrue that criticizing Bill Clinton can get you fired from teaching at a university. I'm not sure where you could have gotten the idea that it's rare or dangerous to criticize politicians in the US.
Over the last year many US academics and students have been abused because they openly dissent with or protest against the warlords in charge.
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> Our political systems The rift has nothing to do with the political system (e.g. the US is freely and openly allied with Saudi Arabia despite radically different political systems), and everything to do with the competition for power and influence in the world. SA is not a real contender there, China is. From here the rift and inevitable conflict. > If you are looking for some specific justification for a ban, you'…
> power and influence good observation but it's probably both. The EU is a significant center of power and influence but so far the US hasn't started banning bidets.
Not really, but it looks like it will impose tariffs on other goods from the EU. [0]
[0] https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-warned-to-prepare-for-ear...
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It’s definitely not “purely about economical war”. A large part of it was public support for Palestine and the perceived role of TikTok in it, which explains the timing of the ban and why it succeeded this time around. Evidence? Well, many congresscritters were very open about this motive, e.g. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmaker... But yes, of course “social media is bad for children” had no…
Honestly i think Palestine is very very minor reason. Some super pro israel politians might point to it as reason but its seems more of a cover. Why? Because there is huge support of palestine on facebook and instagram too. Its probably even bigger than on TikTok. These services have all the same content. If content creators arent already posting on all of the networks then there is army of people/bots who will hapil…
Oh and this is BBC saying Facebook censors Palestinian news outlets, from earlier today.[2]
Of course Facebook isn’t as stupid as banning all posts that remotely smells like supporting Palestine, so you can still find a lot of that if you bothered to look. Politicians were saying even that is fanned by people finding unfiltered stuff on TikTok.
[1] https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...
Apple and Google control exactly what data apps can possibly harvest, via their OS permissions. There are millions of apps on their app stores. If apps are acting like spyware then the government should pressure Apple and Google to fix the issue at the OS level. Otherwise it's just whack-a-mole.
> If apps are acting like spyware then the government should pressure Apple and Google to fix the issue at the OS level. If you think that's the issue, you're mistaken or confused.
Apple and Google control exactly what data apps can possibly harvest, via their OS permissions. There are millions of apps on their app stores. If apps are acting like spyware then the government should pressure Apple and Google to fix the issue at the OS level. Otherwise it's just whack-a-mole.
Apps are not acting like spyware on iOS or else you're as clueless as the Reuters "journalist" who wrote this propaganda piece and never probably seen Swift code or looked into how incredibly well app sandboxing works.
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Not so much, which is precisely why China does ban Twitter and Facebook. I’d love to have a detente where every country has a permissive policy towards social media apps and accepts some degree of soft power from it, but that’s not where we’re at.
So the US wants to be like China???
Of course things will not go that far domestically... unless the shooting starts.
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Censorship... zzzZZZzz They're banning app/news delivery app managed by enemy government It is not like they're blocking internet, wikipedia they're banning stupid, memes/brainrot app
Chinese Tiktok is forcibly wholesome (by Chinese standards). They do not believe in absolute freedom of speech. Now Americans have just conceded that they don't believe in it either. It's good that we're all on the same page now.
If we were even more on the same page generally, then the US would put its undesirable ethnic minorities in reeducation camps.